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A purchase with issues
- Thread starter thomasjbass
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How did you pay? You dont need to mess with shipping insurance if you used Paypal.
+1. If it comes down to it, you might just need to file a dispute. I don't understand how that crack could go unnoticed, how the switches were not mentioned, or how a different gigbag was shipped with the bass without being told ahead of time. It all sounds slipshod to me -- the work of a seller who doesn't seem to care as much as he should.
Actually I got the kid, he plays sax in my band now. He's got great chops 
Totally get it about the case, and actually after contacting him about the crack, he offered to throw in a brand new mono case. He asked if I would be interested in having Tim repair the fretboard, but I said I wasn't. I told him I wouldn't want patchwork for the price that I paid for the bass. I said I would compromise if he wanted to pay for a new fretboard, and he was ok with that. We shall see, I will keep everyone updated. Thanks everyone for the insight. I will definitely be a bit more diligent in asking questions, especially ones about kids and cases
Totally get it about the case, and actually after contacting him about the crack, he offered to throw in a brand new mono case. He asked if I would be interested in having Tim repair the fretboard, but I said I wasn't. I told him I wouldn't want patchwork for the price that I paid for the bass. I said I would compromise if he wanted to pay for a new fretboard, and he was ok with that. We shall see, I will keep everyone updated. Thanks everyone for the insight. I will definitely be a bit more diligent in asking questions, especially ones about kids and cases
A new fretboard? Sheesh. I hope the deal works out and everything but that just sounds like more trouble (and more cash?) for both sides.
As other have said while buyers should exercise due diligence in getting the scoop on their potential, buys I think it's even more important for sellers to accurately represent whatever they're selling and make sure that all information about the item is fully disclosed.
As other have said while buyers should exercise due diligence in getting the scoop on their potential, buys I think it's even more important for sellers to accurately represent whatever they're selling and make sure that all information about the item is fully disclosed.
I've had a few times here where I've bought something that was not as it was listed, and when confronted the buyer's already spent the money.
That irks me more than anything. Keep ahold of the damn money for 4 days until you know the item has arrived fine, or have funds available to 'make it right' if something does go wrong. It's the sellers problem... not the buyers problem.
I know people get all excited swapping around basses, but you have to look after what you've sold.
IMHO.
That irks me more than anything. Keep ahold of the damn money for 4 days until you know the item has arrived fine, or have funds available to 'make it right' if something does go wrong. It's the sellers problem... not the buyers problem.
I know people get all excited swapping around basses, but you have to look after what you've sold.
IMHO.
I think a lot of the time, the sellers are just saying that to avoid giving out full refund. Of course, none of us can say with any certainty if that's the case here. Even if the money has already been spent, I seriously doubt that these sellers don't have the funds to cover a fulle refund.
Thanks Kwesi. You and I think alike and stflb that was exactly what I said to him. Usually if I don't hear from the buyer a day or two after they receive the bass I generally always follow up with the buyer. What was funny is that he posted he wasn't in a financial burden for the money in the ad, but when I asked him about it he said he had to pay off bills right away. Kinda seems conflicting.
It is hard to imagine that the seller was unaware of the board defect prior to shipping. In this case knowing there may be a potential problem in the offing, the sellers spending the money was irresponsible and unethical. So much for Christian brotherhood, huh ?
- May 30, 2000
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Sometimes people put up for sale things that they rarely use and don't go over it with a fine tooth comb before they offer it for sale. You can't really tell if it's an oversight or they intentionally didn't mention it unless you can read their mind or they previously talked about how it was defective.
The crack in the fretboard looks like something that a experienced luthier can easily fix and that's without replacing the fretboard. The seller should be open to paying for that, no so sure about replacing the whole fretboard though.
The switches are something that an experienced tech can take care of and the seller should be open to paying for that as well.
The crack in the fretboard looks like something that a experienced luthier can easily fix and that's without replacing the fretboard. The seller should be open to paying for that, no so sure about replacing the whole fretboard though.
The switches are something that an experienced tech can take care of and the seller should be open to paying for that as well.
If they replace the fretboard, you would likely lose the inlay, which makes the bass unique. The switches would not bother me, but I would get the crack fixed.
If I had a $2600 bass, I would keep it in a case.
If I had a $2600 bass, I would keep it in a case.
At this time I have decided to hold off. Many great comments here and advice. I will ask for a full refund. Cross your fingers.
Already posted to be on the safe side as well with my credit card. Worst case I can always cancel if I need to.
Valid point, Phil.
But clearly, looking at his YouTube channel, this bass WAS his main bass, or at the very least, one that was played very often. So, in this instance, that statement does not really apply.
It's fairly unrealistic to think that he would miss those crucial details given the apparent use of this instrument. He even mentioned in his original thread, the "Tons of tonal options and it's capable of some seriously thick and creamy tones." So, at the very least, he would know about the toggle switches.
Just from the facts given, and the price paid, it does appear that there was some deception and dishonesty involved.
True enough, but I think anyone selling anything (especially when it comes to something this expensive) should go over it with a fine tooth comb before listing. I'd call anything else negligence. Malicious or not, it shouldn't happen but that's in a perfect world and all that.
Good on you, man. I hope it all works out for you.
- May 30, 2000
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It's really the buyers responsibility to determine if the item is worth the money that they are paying for it. If you can't physically inspect a bass, then you should as part of your deal have the option to return for a full refund if it doesn't meet your expectations. You should also get detailed pictures that cover every part of the bass in situations where you can't physically inspect the instrument and that means high resolution images of every part of the bass that enables you to "zoom in" and inspect things.
Personally, at $2,600 that bass is way overpriced.
Good point.
Personally, at $2,600 that bass is way overpriced.
I suppose that depends more and the buyer and seller
