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A purchase with issues

So note to everyone here (PS, love the details):

I just spoke with the US Attorney's office in Illinois and the assistant to Patrick Fitzgerald. I gave them a very basic rundown of the situation, and even mentioned some details about the seller that I have been given by a few others offline whom know this gentleman in the Chicago area through Gospel groups. They said that because he sold the item over state lines and committed petty "fraud" without full disclosure I would have a case against him. They also said I may want go the local route also, but they said that I should notify him immediately of these details as he may not know the full ramifications of his actions.

In addition, Callowhill contacted me in the meantime and said they will not do a fretboard replacement. They don't have time or resources to do this. So that would have answered the question regarding the fretboard full repair.

So, I am drafting a letter today to the US Attorney's office and to the local office to find my legal recourse from here. And once I hear back from the seller, I will make sure that I post in his feedback accordingly. I just want to do what is right.

Thanks everyone.
 
Paypal is actually really good about protecting the buyer. If you file a dispute with them, You'll get your money back, and the seller's paypal account will be negative the same amount. Then it's up to him to make it right cashwise with Paypal.

There's other hoops that have to be jumped through, such as returning the merchandise (DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!), but as long as you didn't send him the money as a "gift", you'll retain your buyer's rights.

I would like to suggest that everyone take a moment and read the Link Removed. Specifically, section 13. Take a moment and I think you will agree that Paypal doesn't protect your purchases unless it pertains to an ebay or Paypal store transaction.
 
So note to everyone here (PS, love the details):

I just spoke with the US Attorney's office in Illinois and the assistant to Patrick Fitzgerald. I gave them a very basic rundown of the situation, and even mentioned some details about the seller that I have been given by a few others offline whom know this gentleman in the Chicago area through Gospel groups. They said that because he sold the item over state lines and committed petty "fraud" without full disclosure I would have a case against him. They also said I may want go the local route also, but they said that I should notify him immediately of these details as he may not know the full ramifications of his actions.

In addition, Callowhill contacted me in the meantime and said they will not do a fretboard replacement. They don't have time or resources to do this. So that would have answered the question regarding the fretboard full repair.

So, I am drafting a letter today to the US Attorney's office and to the local office to find my legal recourse from here. And once I hear back from the seller, I will make sure that I post in his feedback accordingly. I just want to do what is right.

Thanks everyone.


So you are pursuing a criminal case/restitution against him? That's actually a really good idea! I predict a full refund after that :) However, you still need to give him feedback accordingly. Good TB sellers don't have to be threatened with prosecution before they will "do the right thing."
 
So note to everyone here (PS, love the details):

I just spoke with the US Attorney's office in Illinois and the assistant to Patrick Fitzgerald. I gave them a very basic rundown of the situation, and even mentioned some details about the seller that I have been given by a few others offline whom know this gentleman in the Chicago area through Gospel groups. They said that because he sold the item over state lines and committed petty "fraud" without full disclosure I would have a case against him. They also said I may want go the local route also, but they said that I should notify him immediately of these details as he may not know the full ramifications of his actions.

In addition, Callowhill contacted me in the meantime and said they will not do a fretboard replacement. They don't have time or resources to do this. So that would have answered the question regarding the fretboard full repair.

So, I am drafting a letter today to the US Attorney's office and to the local office to find my legal recourse from here. And once I hear back from the seller, I will make sure that I post in his feedback accordingly. I just want to do what is right.

Thanks everyone.

Good luck to you, sir. I hope the outcome is a positive one.
 
Is it just me or is OP jumping the gun to the legal route? It sounds like the seller is still in good communication with the buyer and is trying to work through this - fretboard replacement etc.

Well he said he's going to wait for the reply from the seller by which I assume that he's giving the seller the chance to make this right without legal intervention. I wouldn't call it "jumping the gun" so much as "preparation for the worst."

That said, Paypal has helped buyers outside of eBay so it's worth a shot if that was how the payment was sent.
 
I would like to suggest that everyone take a moment and read the Link Removed. Specifically, section 13. Take a moment and I think you will agree that Paypal doesn't protect your purchases unless it pertains to an ebay or Paypal store transaction.

Ooh, good spot Bob. It's been a long time since I've had to use Paypal's dispute resolution measures. *knocks on wood* In fact, I don't know if I've ever had to use those measures outside of an eBay transaction. I assumed, my bad.

Let this be a lesson to all of us, or just me haha. RTFUA. :D
 
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f18/small-crack-ebony-fretboard-428605/

The fingerboard is not structural, so the only reason to repair the crack would be aesthetics.

Ebony is highly prone to cracking and checking. It is the nature of the wood. It is highly oily and cures MUCH more slowly than many other woods. The likely reason for the crack is that the ebony has cured out and shrunk. Because it is affixed to the maple, it had to give somewhere.

In addition, because of the very tight grain, it tends to expand and contract very differently than the maple or another wood that it is adhered to during seasonable changes. So, if you fill in the crack, you are running some risks down the road of having created a brand new problem. Similar to what happens when a hardwood floor shrinks in the winter and dirt fills in the seams. When the moisture comes back, it buckles.

In short, leave it alone. It is the nature of things.

If you just CAN'T live with looking at the crack, rub a black grease pencil (crayon) perpendicular to the crack and then buff it off the surface with a rag. It will make the crack all but invisible and squeeze out if the crack tries to close.
 
I am interested in protecting myself at this point. The seller has ceased all discussion at this point and instead of using the time friviously while I am waiting for his response, I am taking action to protect myself. I haven't filed anything or started a criminal investigation. However, I will tell you that I have been contacted by several other's here on TB that explained that they have had issues with this seller in the past. Now, not that I am going to take that as truth, but I am alarmed and concerned about the funds that I put towards this purchase.

So to be fair, I have given the seller 24 hours to respond to the request of a full refund and I have given him 9 days to make a full payment in return. I want to be fair about this but at the same time stern.

Again thank you everyone for your opinions and feedback.
 
I sold an item on eBay once (not a bass) and when the buyer received it, he determined that even though I disclosed all damage, and that the item was used, it was not as "clean" as he was expecting. Instead of having him disatisified and leaving me negative feedback over what equated to a misunderstanding, I decided to rebate him some of the cost (I think it was $25 or something) and he was happy.

Maybe the seller could refund some of the money. Maybe enough to cover the replacement of the switches and to have the fretboard patched. If he refuses to work with you, then like the old saying goes, "caveat emptor" (let the buyer beware). I've purchased LOTS of used items off the internet, and I've been very lucky for the most part, but I've been burned a few times too. In the long run, I've saved a LOT more money than I've been taken for.