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A thread for with which to vent.
- Thread starter Radical Edward
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After a year long process of gradually lowering my standards, I have spent the last two months applying for entry level positions that require at most a GED. Even with my master's degree and a few years of experience in a related field, I haven't been offered a single preliminary interview. The job market for the geographic area I'm applying in is allegedly one of the strongest in the country.
When I turn on the radio and one station tells me the economy is on the mend, while the next features some old man who didn't try to enter the workforce during a depression screaming about how entitled I surely feel, I'm not sure exactly what I should do. Coming to the venting thread seems about the most positive response I can muster.
When I turn on the radio and one station tells me the economy is on the mend, while the next features some old man who didn't try to enter the workforce during a depression screaming about how entitled I surely feel, I'm not sure exactly what I should do. Coming to the venting thread seems about the most positive response I can muster.
This may seem like a stupid question, have you had someone check your resume, cover letter and manner in which you submit application forms?
It may seem like a stupuid question, but I know a few people who are too stubborn to do so. Who claim they don't need people to check their CV/resume because they know that is fine.
It may seem like a stupuid question, but I know a few people who are too stubborn to do so. Who claim they don't need people to check their CV/resume because they know that is fine.
That's not a stupid question at all. I've bounced my CV (eventually reduced to a resume as I changed the type of jobs I'm applying for) off of a handful of people over the last few years while regularly modifying it to emphasize the skills relevant to the jobs I'm currently applying for. In this world of electronic filters and thousands of applicants electronically applying for any given position, I beginning to doubt a human being even lays eyes upon it 95% of the time.
I've had friends glance at my cover letters a few times, but I don't usually have anyone check them. Now I'm applying to positions where no one I've talked to with the job has ever even bothered submitting a cover letter. Including a well-written one thus far hasn't seemed to grant me any advantage.
Enough complaining from me anyway.
It's time to get some coffee and check out new postings.
That's not a stupid question at all. I've bounced my CV (eventually reduced to a resume as I changed the type of jobs I'm applying for) off of a handful of people over the last few years while regularly modifying it to emphasize the skills relevant to the jobs I'm currently applying for. In this world of electronic filters and thousands of applicants electronically applying for any given position, I beginning to doubt a human being even lays eyes upon it 95% of the time.
I've had friends glance at my cover letters a few times, but I don't usually have anyone check them. Now I'm applying to positions where no one I've talked to with the job has ever even bothered submitting a cover letter. Including a well-written one thus far hasn't seemed to grant me any advantage.
Enough complaining from me anyway.
It's frustrating but I've found that sometimes it simply comes down to who you know.... a good cover letter and resume will get you a job if you're lucky, but a good cover letter, resume and a friend in the right place will get you the position. I was explaining this to my oldest son just recently - you need to network, make friends, join clubs. etc anything that will expand your circle.
That's not a stupid question at all. I've bounced my CV (eventually reduced to a resume as I changed the type of jobs I'm applying for) off of a handful of people over the last few years while regularly modifying it to emphasize the skills relevant to the jobs I'm currently applying for. In this world of electronic filters and thousands of applicants electronically applying for any given position, I beginning to doubt a human being even lays eyes upon it 95% of the time.
I've had friends glance at my cover letters a few times, but I don't usually have anyone check them. Now I'm applying to positions where no one I've talked to with the job has ever even bothered submitting a cover letter. Including a well-written one thus far hasn't seemed to grant me any advantage.
Enough complaining from me anyway.
I agree with Relic that who you know can always help too. I'd also recommend trying LinkedIn, I've had a few job offers through that, it's also handy for building your professional network.
For jobs requiring a post-graduate degree, I think it may have been more hands on from your direct boss, I don't think you need to worry as much about buzzword searches in those kind of applications
I appreciate the advice and it rings true to my own experience; every position I've held, I've applied to with some reference to a friend or acquaintance at or in contact with the hiring organization. I'm at a bit of a networking disadvantage right now, living in a rural area while primarily applying for positions in a city 100 miles away with the intent of moving. If I keep shaking off the frustration, I'm sure I'll make some gradual inroads via the few professional folk I do know in the area.
I agree with Relic that who you know can always help too. I'd also recommend trying LinkedIn, I've had a few job offers through that, it's also handy for building your professional network.
For jobs requiring a post-graduate degree, I think it may have been more hands on from your direct boss, I don't think you need to worry as much about buzzword searches in those kind of applications
I also appreciate that advice. I've signed up for LinkedIn, but haven't really looked at it yet--the whole thing seems so artificial to me. I suppose that's something I simply need to get over though. I also think I'm done searching for jobs of a higher caliber until I land something else and have a chance to reestablish myself with a healthy work history after this frustrated search. Of course if I happen to see a posting for a position that requires my education or work experience I'll still send in an application. No harm in the extra effort.
The sun is up now and I'm feeling better after using the vent thread guys. Thanks!
It is a little bit contrived, but to get a job you really need to market yourself.
It's true what they say about it being easier to find work when you already have work, good luck!
It's true what they say about it being easier to find work when you already have work, good luck!
Pubes/feces/assorted filth on public toilet seats. Everywhere I go I find sites of massive butt destruction. I wonder if there's a place in the world where people actually use their noggins and experience gag reflexes toward such gross displays.....because of all the places, the place I experience the most life pleasure is on the bowl.
People who blindly follow me on soundcloud.
I know it's petty, but I've gotten 3 new followers in the last few days with 0 listens, it's just like why would you do that. That totally takes away from what's supposed to happen on there. I always give people listens if they follow me and if they're not bad I give them a follow. I guess it's allowing me to discover new stuff, but why follow someone if you don't know what they sound like?
I do realize it's a marketing strategy
I know it's petty, but I've gotten 3 new followers in the last few days with 0 listens, it's just like why would you do that. That totally takes away from what's supposed to happen on there. I always give people listens if they follow me and if they're not bad I give them a follow. I guess it's allowing me to discover new stuff, but why follow someone if you don't know what they sound like?
I do realize it's a marketing strategy
Couldn't agree more with the "who you know" thing. LinkedIn is huge for networking.
It's a double edged sword. You could be in my shoes. Tons of experience and knowledge in my field but getting a higher paid/position job is still f'd due to no degree. I think I'd rather have the masters degree and can't find a job the. Where I am at.
My kid just doesn't want to go to sleep. Or stay asleep. Ugh. 20 months today. We will have good day/weeks where he will go to bed with no screaming and not wake up a billion times. I think we had one week that he slept through the whole night.
And my wife wants another one.
And my wife wants another one.
Gotta love it. The girlfriend admitted she wants over 4.
And I'm still trying to frame my mind for one....
Im just sick and tired of arguing with my Italian girlfriend.
She lives in Rome, and is preggers. And now I seriously think its over to the point I will never see the kid and he will not know who I am or hate me.
Other then that...My other problems are just very easy to deal with and correct.
She lives in Rome, and is preggers. And now I seriously think its over to the point I will never see the kid and he will not know who I am or hate me.
Other then that...My other problems are just very easy to deal with and correct.
Vaacum?
I hate drivers who pass me on completely blind turns while I'm on my bike, sometimes forcing oncoming traffic off the road.
The overall quality of drivers seems to have really gone downhill over the years. Now, get off my lawn.
I hate drivers who pass me on completely blind turns while I'm on my bike, sometimes forcing oncoming traffic off the road.
The overall quality of drivers seems to have really gone downhill over the years. Now, get off my lawn.
Hey new guy. Yeah, you. This is an Internet forum. The conversation goes both ways. OK, you're new to bass and over-eager. Maybe it's teen angst and you possess a little more instant gratification need than someone a few years older. Let this old fart offer up a suggestion learned years ago from older farts:
Shut up and listen. You may find the answer you need by reading a little instead of starting a new thread to learn how to plug your bass in or turn the knobs, then usually never responding after an answer is given.
And you, the seasoned TBer with the new mobile device that doesn't spellcheck or auto-punctuate. Stop with the run-on, under-punctuated, never-capitalized posts that make the reader dumb down to understand them. Try a period every now and then to break up a sentence that could hold some sense if it was readable.
Knock it off.
Shut up and listen. You may find the answer you need by reading a little instead of starting a new thread to learn how to plug your bass in or turn the knobs, then usually never responding after an answer is given.
And you, the seasoned TBer with the new mobile device that doesn't spellcheck or auto-punctuate. Stop with the run-on, under-punctuated, never-capitalized posts that make the reader dumb down to understand them. Try a period every now and then to break up a sentence that could hold some sense if it was readable.
Knock it off.
