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Accugoove Cabs, Mark Wright and Mike Fredericks

#41
MikeBass said:
Ya know what Ken, I don't think I want them back after a few gig on these things!

These cabs do what we say Sadowsky's do.
Sound pretty good alone in a shop/house etc...but on the gig.....Oh my is it something COMPLETLY different.

They came alive.
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Hey... just trying to lighten up the thread a little:) I'm just playin' :D

Plus... you'd sound good through anything!

K
 
#43
Mark is a great guy! about two years ago, when my band was going of a nation wide tour. I contacted Accugroove, about their cabs. He went so far as to offer me an endorsement, and let my try out the EL Whappo at a gig! I contacted 7 different companies, and all but one gave me the time of day! I just wish I could afford their cabs, and that they made a 2x15 to run with me Bassman 135 tube head. Mark if you read this. Thank you so much for all that you have done for me!
 
#45
BigMikeW said:
How so? Can you compare the two?
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I'll try; it's been a couple of years, so I'll do my best to remember. First off, both Accugrooves were really tight and accurate sounding. There wasn't much 'bleed' out the sides or back of the cabs, unlike my EV B-410, which is loud in every direction. Unlike my EV, the Accugrooves were deep sounding without being boomy. Now, I cut my teeth on SVT's way back when, so there's just no single 12 cabinet that really does it for me, which probably has a lot to do with why I didn't like the Tri-12's as much as the El Whappo Jr. I even tried the set of Tri-12's against the Jr, and to my ears, the Jr just had more life to it. Deeper lows, livelier highs, that sort of thing. Anyway, after deciding which one I liked best, I took the Jr. on a few gigs, and it was excellent. I've always had difficulties with boominess, but not with the Jr. I can only imagine what an El Whappo would be like! Anyway, I was definitely going to get a Jr, but life intervened (divorce, child support, etc.), and I'm still stuck with my old EV for now, which isn't exactly slumming, but when you know something better is out there, it is kind of annoying.
 
#46
BigMikeW said:
Well, it looks like I will officially be trying 4 Accugroove cabs. Two Tri112's, a Tri115 and a Whappo Jr.

Going to try Mike config - 112 and 115 - as well as just the 12's stacked.

Can't wait.
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Just as a reminder Mike, of course you probably already know this, but the Whappo Jr. has one of it's 12's as a sub 12 and if using 2-Tri112's you will not have that sub 12, so there will be a difference to concider. Just a reminder. :hiding: :cool: :p
 
#47
MacGroove said:
Just as a reminder Mike, of course you probably already know this, but the Whappo Jr. has one of it's 12's as a sub 12 and if using 2-Tri112's you will not have that sub 12, so there will be a difference to concider. Just a reminder. :hiding: :cool: :p
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YMMV, but I've had bad luck with subs in stage rigs. Just ends up being too muddy. I found the Tri-112L's to have PLENTY of the "right kind" of low end for any stage rig I'd ever need. Very full yet focused/tight, and really usable as a result. IMHO disclaimer of course.
 
#48
danomite64 said:
I'll try; it's been a couple of years, so I'll do my best to remember. First off, both Accugrooves were really tight and accurate sounding. There wasn't much 'bleed' out the sides or back of the cabs, unlike my EV B-410, which is loud in every direction. Unlike my EV, the Accugrooves were deep sounding without being boomy. Now, I cut my teeth on SVT's way back when, so there's just no single 12 cabinet that really does it for me, which probably has a lot to do with why I didn't like the Tri-12's as much as the El Whappo Jr. I even tried the set of Tri-12's against the Jr, and to my ears, the Jr just had more life to it. Deeper lows, livelier highs, that sort of thing. Anyway, after deciding which one I liked best, I took the Jr. on a few gigs, and it was excellent. I've always had difficulties with boominess, but not with the Jr. I can only imagine what an El Whappo would be like! Anyway, I was definitely going to get a Jr, but life intervened (divorce, child support, etc.), and I'm still stuck with my old EV for now, which isn't exactly slumming, but when you know something better is out there, it is kind of annoying.
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Which combo (2 Tri 112's or the Jr.) had the better mid punch?
 
#50
Vic said:
YMMV, but I've had bad luck with subs in stage rigs. Just ends up being too muddy. I found the Tri-112L's to have PLENTY of the "right kind" of low end for any stage rig I'd ever need. Very full yet focused/tight, and really usable as a result. IMHO disclaimer of course.
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I agree Mike, just wanted to give out a reminder when they're being AB'ed.

That's why some bassists preferred the Whappo Jr. over the El Whappo's 15 sub.
 
#52
This is why I am lucky to be able to test most of them.

Setups:

1.) Tri115L and Tri112L - This is Mike Fredericks current rig and is basically a modular El Whappo with extra 6" and extra tweets. I imagine this to possibly be the best setup as it should have the low end extension of an El Whappo BUT with more mid punch and more highs.

2.) Tri112L Stacked - From talking to Mark (and now Mike) this setup would be just like the above but with a less WIDE sound from the 15". Mark describes his 15's as "pregnant 12's". Mike also commented that both cabs sound VERY similar with the 15" sound a bit wider. This could be the punch monster setup.

3.) Whappo Jr. - This was actually the first cab Mark recommended to me. Good weight at only 64lbs. but I may really be wanting a modular setup like the two above.

Lightweight/Modular setup :rolleyes: I say I want this type of setup and buy two Berg NV cabs. Go figure. :rollno:

I am really eager to see how the Eden WT-1205 sounds with these cabs!!!
 
#54
danomite64 said:
I felt the Jr. had more punch, but I also felt it was more scooped....the punch I like tends to be low end, so the
Tri-12's may be more to your liking. Mid is where I get my growl, and I thought both were equal there.
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This is the first time I have heard Accugrooves (any of them) described as scooped in any way.

I like low-mid punch. Like an Eden cab and head.
 
#55
BigMikeW said:
This is the first time I have heard Accugrooves (any of them) described as scooped in any way.

I like low-mid punch. Like an Eden cab and head.
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Me too, but then again, I've never played through one of those. I definitely wouldn't say that about the tri210 or 112.
 
#56
You can listen to 'em here:

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I definitely wouldn't call them scooped - but there seemed to be a pleasing low bump, that makes the cabinet sound really full throughout the entire range, maybe around 100hz or so? The one thing I noticed for better or worse is that the sound with your ear to the Tri112 cabinet is much different than 3 feet away. I thought the tri115 sounded pretty amazing, I could happily use it as a standalone!
 
#58
danomite64 said:
Heh, yeah. I probably should mention I play a Warmoth Jazz with a graphite neck and Sadowski preamp into a Mesa Bass 400.....scoop-city.:D

Anyway, of the 2, the Jr had more high and low end presence.
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LOL. I don't find sadowsky pre to be scooped at all. I havw only played a 400 once so I can't comment on that.
 
#59
vanselus said:
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Well, it looks like this is going to be my next rig. Mike Fredericks and I have VERY similar tonal requirements and go for the same tone overall.

Mike confirmed eveything Mark said about this setup and then some. So I am going to listen to Mike recommendation and just go with it.

I probably shouldn't have bought the NV cabs. Only because I wanted a lighter/modular setup. I bought then because they weren't going to be made anymore. I am not one to collect or keep unused gear. So you can guess what I may be doing soon.
 
#60
BigMikeW said:
Well, it looks like this is going to be my next rig. Mike Fredericks and I have VERY similar tonal requirements and go for the same tone overall.

Mike confirmed eveything Mark said about this setup and then some. So I am going to listen to Mike recommendation and just go with it.

I probably shouldn't have bought the NV cabs. Only because I wanted a lighter/modular setup. I bought then because they weren't going to be made anymore. I am not one to collect or keep unused gear. So you can guess what I may be doing soon.
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Umm, selling those NV cabs to Bowlus?
 

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