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Acme Cabs + Thunderfunk = ???

#3
500w of anything is a little light for an Acme box.

I use a B2 with a 500w. for a band practice rig and it's...kinda-sorta ok but we don't crank.

I've used the 500w. with a B4 at gigs and it'll pick up the paycheck but....you wont have much fun.

I can take that same head and plug it into my Epifani 212D and crack plaster.

On the other hand...I can take that Acme stack...plug it into a PLX 2402...and disintegrate plaster....<img>
 
#4
Just got this email from Australia:

Hello Dave,

I have just bought a TFB550 through David Burgess at Greensquare Music...the amp is everything and more than I expected it would be! At this point, I've paired the head with a 4ohm ACME LowB4 cab, sounds awesome...heaps of tone options and punch, I love it and hope to get years of reliable use of it. Thanks for building my dream bass amp, peace

Dave

PS: David Burgess was great to deal with and very professional! Cheers.
 
#7
Hey J-

I have TFB 550 in my apt on the UES -- are you still in the city? Perhaps we could give it a go. So far I've only used it with my GK Neo 112 on a gig, and it cranked, but that's obviously way more efficient than the Acme line. PM me if you want to give it a whirl.
 
#10
Wouldn't it depend on your application, though? I've read about people running B2's with the older GK1001's without a problem, and B-4's with Iamps, which are about 800 watts @ 4ohms. I'd imagine a Thunderfunk + 4 ohm B2, for example, would kill on a jazz or funk, electric gig. I can't speak from experience, as I own only a B-1, and I've only used it live with an upright, but every situation has different requirements.
 
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Aram said:
Wouldn't it depend on your application, though? I've read about people running B2's with the older GK1001's without a problem, and B-4's with Iamps, which are about 800 watts @ 4ohms. I'd imagine a Thunderfunk + 4 ohm B2, for example, would kill on a jazz or funk, electric gig. I can't speak from experience, as I own only a B-1, and I've only used it live with an upright, but every situation has different requirements.
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I used a B1 4ohm with a Clarus for my semi-acoustic fretless and it sounded great on soft gigs.... very warm and organic. I bought a B2 4ohm for use with my standard electric and did use an iAmp800 with it for a while, and also a WW Ultra... those little cabs sound great, but i felt i was buried even on soft jazz-type gigs. those B2's with lot's of power sound great.... until you compare them to almost any other high quality 210 (the newer EA's, Epifani, etc. etc.)..... no comparison... massively more volume and projection and IMO a much punchier, more usable low end. Again.... tone is always pretty much an opinion.... but volume is another thing. The massive inefficiency of those cabs seems like much too high a price to pay for the slightly additional low end response versus other recent small cabs like the Berg's, Epi's EA's etc.
 
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KJung said:
I used a B1 4ohm with a Clarus for my semi-acoustic fretless and it sounded great on soft gigs.... very warm and organic. I bought a B2 4ohm for use with my standard electric and did use an iAmp800 with it for a while, and also a WW Ultra... those little cabs sound great, but i felt i was buried even on soft jazz-type gigs. those B2's with lot's of power sound great.... until you compare them to almost any other high quality 210 (the newer EA's, Epifani, etc. etc.)..... no comparison... massively more volume and projection and IMO a much punchier, more usable low end. Again.... tone is always pretty much an opinion.... but volume is another thing. The massive inefficiency of those cabs seems like much too high a price to pay for the slightly additional low end response versus other recent small cabs like the Berg's, Epi's EA's etc.
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Yeah I can see that being the case. I'd really like to use my TBF550 + B1 to see how it fares with this singer/songwriter/acoustic guitarist I've been gigging with. He's got a relatively loud PA, but not a very hard attack on guitar (and he mostly plays on the higher strings), so I'm wondering how the Acme would fare in that setting. I'll post about it if the situation arises.
 
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KJung said:
I used a B1 4ohm with a Clarus for my semi-acoustic fretless and it sounded great on soft gigs.... very warm and organic. I bought a B2 4ohm for use with my standard electric and did use an iAmp800 with it for a while, and also a WW Ultra... those little cabs sound great, but i felt i was buried even on soft jazz-type gigs. those B2's with lot's of power sound great.... until you compare them to almost any other high quality 210 (the newer EA's, Epifani, etc. etc.)..... no comparison... massively more volume and projection and IMO a much punchier, more usable low end. Again.... tone is always pretty much an opinion.... but volume is another thing. The massive inefficiency of those cabs seems like much too high a price to pay for the slightly additional low end response versus other recent small cabs like the Berg's, Epi's EA's etc.
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+1. Acmes sound great but are just too quiet. My B4 took an 1800 watt power amp for all it was worth, I can't imagine trying to get by on 550 watts.
 
#14
Aram said:
Wouldn't it depend on your application, though? I've read about people running B2's with the older GK1001's without a problem, and B-4's with Iamps, which are about 800 watts @ 4ohms. I'd imagine a Thunderfunk + 4 ohm B2, for example, would kill on a jazz or funk, electric gig. I can't speak from experience, as I own only a B-1, and I've only used it live with an upright, but every situation has different requirements.
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yea,

my gigs dont really call for all that much power. heck, half the lounges i do, keep asking me to turn down! and that's w/ a Focus into my 4 ohm B2.

but yea, aram, i'd love to get together and try yours out. just wish i could find the time. :(
 
#15
jokerjkny said:
hey all,

since lots of gents rav about how the more neutral and uncolored Accugroove cabs go so well w/ the punch of the Thunderfunk heads, has anyone tried an Acme cab w/ a TF?

is the little 550 watts of the TF enough?
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I use a TF into a 4-ohm B2 for every practice and every gig where I have solid PA support. (I pull out a power amp and second B2 when I don't have PA support.) I am not the loudest bass player around, but the TF/B2 setup has always been easily powerful enough to be heard and felt over the various drummers I play with. I will not be shopping for an amp or cabinet as long as this pair is operational.
 
#16
Ahhh Joker my friend... you're sounding like one who has already talked himself into the TF! I'm looking forward to your review! :)

I know it isn't quite the same thing, but my little EBS Fafner has been great with either one or two 4ohm Acme B2 cabs, in fact this has been my "lightweight/easy-carryin'" rig for a while now. Powerwise they're pretty close, so I suspect it would be a fine matchup. So sorry to tell you this... :D
 
#17
Joker, you KNOW you want one! Rest assured, they are 500 very big watts! Just don't expect any distortion. Clean, warm power. Light weight. Hand built. Reasonably priced. Unreal trade-in policy.

Let us know your impressions when you gig with it the first time. :D

Kim

As you know, I am sold on my GS112s. The TF is the first amp that I have used with one GS112 (including my F-1X/PLX1602) that has powered it into the "holy s$#t will you turn that f&*()@r down!" range.
Honest.
 
#18
I think Acmes are one of those cabs that project the sound out past the player more so than others. I can be standing next to my B2 and barely hear myself while the sax player 15 feet away that the cab is pointing at is bleeding from the ears.

I've powered the Acmes with SWR 350, Ampeg SVT-4Pro, and currently a SVT-CL/Stewart 2.1 rig. I also tried the B2 with an early 70's SVT and the Acmes sound great with any head.

Rick B.
 
#20
RickBlair said:
I think Acmes are one of those cabs that project the sound out past the player more so than others. I can be standing next to my B2 and barely hear myself while the sax player 15 feet away that the cab is pointing at is bleeding from the ears.

I've powered the Acmes with SWR 350, Ampeg SVT-4Pro, and currently a SVT-CL/Stewart 2.1 rig. I also tried the B2 with an early 70's SVT and the Acmes sound great with any head.

Rick B.
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I know this is a somewhat old thread... however, had to comment that my experience with the Amce's was totally the opposite (same thing with the EA VL's)... wonderful near field sound with all that amazing low end coming out of those little boxes, but totally died about 20 feet out... from my experience with people sitting in... which allowed me to listen out in the room. I was totally, totally bummed, since they sounded so good on stage.
 

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