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Adding a second chick singer?

If you consider you're female singers "chicks" then you need to skip it all together

'Chick singer' seems a common phrase on this forum. The OP mentions her as the female singer.

The issue here might be that in essence you are racist and can't accept the fact, that non native english speakers might not have the same command of the english language as you do? :ninja:
 
'Chick singer' seems a common phrase on this forum. The OP mentions her as the female singer.

The issue here might be that in essence you are racist and can't accept the fact, that non native english speakers might not have the same command of the english language as you do? :ninja:

mjac28, abandon thread for your sanity :)

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I don't see why it wouldn't work as long as everyone can keep it a team effort and not turn it into a competition.

Lots of bands have multiple male singers, so why not multiple female singers?

Really it's going to boil down to personalities and attitudes. None of which we can properly determine here, not knowing the parties involved.
 
Oh boy... here comes the drama. I was in a band with not one, not two but THREE female vocalist. One played rhythm guitar and was the coolest woman you would ever want to share a stage with, two and three were just vocalist but had majored in attitude with a minor in drama. There was always something going wrong or just wrong with two and three. It got so bad that one of the two would "have to" set out the gig! At that time we were travelling in two vans, one being stripped to allow for equipment and needless to say, I usually rode in the equipment van. The band lasted for about two years and then simply imploded. I really wish I could have reconnected with singer #1 as was amazing but she went to work in the banking industry and never returned to music. My advice, if you do it, hang on and wear a helmet. Stuff is getting ready to fly but you'll have some stories that start out with, "you ain't going to believe this but..."
 
Really it's going to boil down to personalities and attitudes. None of which we can properly determine here, not knowing the parties involved.

I do know, never the less, it has been a worthwhile thread and I appreciate all responses.

My advice, if you do it, hang on and wear a helmet. Stuff is getting ready to fly but you'll have some stories that start out with, "you ain't going to believe this but..."

Hehe .. yeah, but she's a good singer, so I'm going to brace myself for the ride. Let us see if the idea flies with her or it just ends with me wishing everyone the best and packing my stuff. ... but I promise that if I end up having any you're never going to believe this stories, then I'll post them ... with pics off course :D

But that singer #1 ... People do sometimes come out of the woodwork once they've had their kids and career. You might end up playing with her again :)
 
It sounds like a reasonable proposition, but if the current singer is as insecure as you describe, this might be tough. Then again, just bringing it up might be enough to scare her straight.

If it does get proposed, I'd make sure to tell her that she has the final say on any addition. Having a sense of control over the process could make it easier for her to accept.
 
I'm going to venture the suggestion, when we meet next. Drummer is with me on this one. Only problem I see is the singer ... (like duh).

She can be very competive, and when someone is better than her, she hides under a rock and cries. I have yet to see how she reacts, when she is better.

If this is true, I cannot imagine any way that this will turn out well. No matter what you say or how you say it, she is going to interpret it as something personal against her, and as an attempt to push her out of the band. I would say the same thing if we were talking about men instead of women, or guitarists instead of vocalists: Anyone who is this insecure and this fragile is not going to take this well.

Plus, it really isn't going to solve your underlying problem. If you bring in a second vocalist, you'll wind up divvying up the lead vocals between them; each will have "her own" songs. That means you'll only have half of your repertoire available at any rehearsal or gig if one of them isn't there. And if you offer the obvious suggestion that Singer B can cover Singer A's songs when the latter isn't there, it will make Singer A feel even more "unwanted" and resentful and make matters even worse.
 
Plus, it really isn't going to solve your underlying problem. If you bring in a second vocalist, you'll wind up divvying up the lead vocals between them; each will have "her own" songs. That means you'll only have half of your repertoire available at any rehearsal or gig if one of them isn't there. And if you offer the obvious suggestion that Singer B can cover Singer A's songs when the latter isn't there, it will make Singer A feel even more "unwanted" and resentful and make matters even worse.

This is right on the mark.
 
I might have reservations around the original singer. People with the best of intentions but subject to chaos in their personal/work life... Make lousy band mates... Like a lot of us, been there, done that, got the Tee shirt. No need to re-visit.

For the record, I coined the phrase 'Lady Lead Slacker' .... It is available for a small rental fee :D
 
Plus, it really isn't going to solve your underlying problem. If you bring in a second vocalist, you'll wind up divvying up the lead vocals between them; each will have "her own" songs. That means you'll only have half of your repertoire available at any rehearsal or gig if one of them isn't there. And if you offer the obvious suggestion that Singer B can cover Singer A's songs when the latter isn't there, it will make Singer A feel even more "unwanted" and resentful and make matters even worse.

I am hoping that we can make it clear that it isn't personal, but more a question of stabilizing the band. I think that I'm going to suggest adding keys as well. Also adding that second singer will improve sound immensely, if we can find someone good.

I thought the technical term was "singerbabe."

:)


I might have reservations around the original singer. People with the best of intentions but subject to chaos in their personal/work life... Make lousy band mates... Like a lot of us, been there, done that, got the Tee shirt. No need to re-visit.

For the record, I coined the phrase 'Lady Lead Slacker' .... It is available for a small rental fee :D

Haha ..

Also, you could probably come up with a set list's worth of popular artists--songs that YOU might have a hard time singing, but darn it, you've always wanted to do them...
In addition to the B-52's (fun!):
Heart
The Judds
Indigo Girls
Fleetwood Mac

Heck, there's a set-full of top-40 hits right there!


Exactly .. that is the bonus I'm looking for (if it works out).


Adding another chick singer will double the issue. I've been there done that, it was a rough two years of cat fights, jealously, boy friend issues, family matters, I'm too fat, nothing to ware, my mic smells funny, my throat hurts (see boy friend issues :), song stops every time someone farts and I should get paid more than her. Good luck!

LOL ... missed this post first time around. A hopefully unlikely, but definately realistic scenario :help: (hehe)
 
Also, you could probably come up with a set list's worth of popular artists--songs that YOU might have a hard time singing, but darn it, you've always wanted to do them...
In addition to the B-52's (fun!):
Heart
The Judds
Indigo Girls
Fleetwood Mac

Heck, there's a set-full of top-40 hits right there!

Played with a dual singerbabe band, and these groups formed a large part of the setlist :) They had the soprano/alto, smooth/rough dichotomy already worked out before I joined, great harmonies, was a lto of fun, but it was acoustic, and I wanted to rock.

Also, we had premature twins. I may have been a bit busy to carry one with a band at that point :)
 
Without going into my apprehension about chick singers, it actually sounds like you don't need a second singer but one who will do what she is supposed to, i.e. show up and know the material. Adding a second singer amounts to enabling and supporting the non-professional attitude/behavior or other problematic behaviors she is bringing to the table.

If something happens once it is an outlier. If it happens twice you have a pattern. In my book, the reason that someone doesn’t show up (with few exceptions) is irrelevant insomuch as the practice or gig still needs to take place. A pattern of not showing up for any reason warrants replacement.

It’s not personal, it’s business. That’s my .02
 

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