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Affordable Used Budget Cab and Small Head for Small to Medium Sized Gigs

Hi All,

My small bass combo I use for small gigs and band practice died. I need to put together a solution for small gigs and practice that I can easily move around - I have a really bad back which will only get worse over time. I'm hoping to build a modular solution to keep costs down over time - a small and lightweight bass head and a lightweight cab that will complement my larger gig solution - which is a GK RB700-ii head with a GK Neo 212 cab - and which is too heavy to drag to practice four times a month or to the small monthly gig I have with one act right now Also - this way I have redundancy when parts die - I can always swap stuff with my larger rig in emergencies.

The trick - money is tight. I'm hoping to spend less than $650 for the head and cab combined. I'm hoping you folks can maybe recommend some off-brand solutions that I never see in the wild but come up used in Facebook and on the used sites of many resellers like Reverb or Guitar Center? Preferably Guitar Center - I have a credit there that will help pay for this.

For example - I've never seen Schroeder bass cabs in the wild - but I've heard great things!

BTW - The music and instruments I play - Electric and upright bass; all music from hard rock to classical on either one; Right now I'm gigging with both a classic rock group and a folk rock group. Also doing an occasional project with the upright featuring South-American jazz or South-American classical varieties. So - Clean tone preferred. Ampeg, Hartke and Peavey tested and don't work well with my upright so they are out.

Requirements:
  • Lightweight cab - as much as possible. My back is getting real bad. Cabs under 35lbs preferred but must be under 45. Over 35 and I'll use a handtruck if needed.
  • Cab must push some air. So - for 210 cabs vented are a must - I've used many sealed 210s in the past and they just don't push the low frequencies to the room.
  • Preferably a 210 cab or a 115 cab. No 212 cabs please. Either will greatly complement my Neo 212 if I ever go full stack at a crazy-large gig.
  • Cab - 8 ohms or switchable 4/8 ohms. No 4 ohms cabs please. I'd like to pair this with my Neo 212 in the future if possible.
  • Cab watts - can handle 400 watts or more.
  • Bass head - light weight - 200 watts minimum at 8 ohms.
I'm leaning towards picking up a GK 210 locally - they come up on occasion - for $200 - and then dropping the rest on a used GK Legacy head of GK Fusion head - but I'm completely open to more solutions.

No Markbass BTW - I love them new but I bought two used and both were dead within a week. That's why I'll try to buy the head from a retailer - I was able to return both. Markbass sounds great but after many posts eventually some dedicated Markbass user admits that you shouldn't but one used if its more than 10 years old.

Thanks all -

Mike
 
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Hi All,

My small bass combo I use for small gigs and band practice died. I need to put together a solution for small gigs and practice that I can easily move around - I have a really bad back which will only get worse over time. I'm hoping to build a modular solution to keep costs down over time - a small and lightweight bass head and a lightweight cab that will complement my larger gig solution - which is a GK RB700-ii head with a GK Neo 212 cab - and which is too heavy to drag to practice four times a month or to the small monthly gig I have with one act right now Also - this way I have redundancy when parts die - I can always swap stuff with my larger rig in emergencies.

The trick - money is tight. I'm hoping to spend less than $650 for the head and cab combined. I'm hoping you folks can maybe recommend some off-brand solutions that I never see in the wild but come up used in Facebook and on the used sites of many resellers like Reverb or Guitar Center? Preferably Guitar Center - I have a credit there that will help pay for this.

For example - I've never seen Schroeder bass cabs in the wild - but I've heard great things!

BTW - The music and instruments I play - Electric and upright bass; all music from hard rock to classical on either one; Right now I'm gigging with both a classic rock group and a folk rock group. Also doing an occasional project with the upright featuring South-American jazz or South-American classical varieties. So - Clean tone preferred. Ampeg, Hartke and Peavey tested and don't work well with my upright so they are out.

Requirements:
  • Lightweight cab - as much as possible. My back is getting real bad. Cabs under 35lbs preferred but must be under 45. Over 35 and I'll use a handtruck if needed.
  • Cab must push some air. So - for 210 cabs vented are a must - I've used many sealed 210s in the past and they just don't push the low frequencies to the room.
  • Preferably a 210 cab or a 115 cab. No 212 cabs please. Either will greatly complement my Neo 212 if I ever go full stack at a crazy-large gig.
  • Cab - 8 ohms or switchable 4/8 ohms. No 4 ohms cabs please. I'd like to pair this with my Neo 212 in the future if possible.
  • Cab watts - can handle 400 watts or more.
  • Bass head - light weight - 200 watts minimum at 8 ohms.
I'm leaning towards picking up a GK 210 locally - they come up on occasion - for $200 - and then dropping the rest on a used GK Legacy head of GK Fusion head - but I'm completely open to more solutions.

No Markbass BTW - I love them new but I bought two used and both were dead within a week. That's why I'll try to buy the head from a retailer - I was able to return both. Markbass sounds great but after many posts eventually some dedicated Markbass user admits that you shouldn't but one used if its more than 10 years old.

Thanks all -

Mike
Try a NEW Nanomark head. Plenty of power. Add a 1x12 cab of your choice.
 
Try a NEW Nanomark head. Plenty of power. Add a 1x12 cab of your choice.
Yeah, I'l second that! NanoMark II, into an Ashdown 112. This pair has been plenty to cover me in small to medium sized clubs w/o PA support.

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RevSound cabinets are relatively light, sound good and reasonably priced. You don't say anything about the size of the venues you are playing . These days most of the places I play hold between 100 and 300 people. I generally use a 112 or a 110 cabinet with between 300 and 500 watts of power and there is never a problem being heard. My Revsound 110 is light enough that I can carry the cab, my bass and my amp all at one time.
 
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He says no Markbass... I've been Impressed with the Warwick Gnome iPro. Great sound if the basic controls are enough for you. Maybe take a look at the Warwick cabs too. I haven't heard those but they're compact, fairly lightweight and inexpenseve. $650 is gonna be the limiting factor for a lightweight 2x10 & head.
 
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Hi All,

My small bass combo I use for small gigs and band practice died. I need to put together a solution for small gigs and practice that I can easily move around - I have a really bad back which will only get worse over time. I'm hoping to build a modular solution to keep costs down over time - a small and lightweight bass head and a lightweight cab that will complement my larger gig solution - which is a GK RB700-ii head with a GK Neo 212 cab - and which is too heavy to drag to practice four times a month or to the small monthly gig I have with one act right now Also - this way I have redundancy when parts die - I can always swap stuff with my larger rig in emergencies.

The trick - money is tight. I'm hoping to spend less than $650 for the head and cab combined. I'm hoping you folks can maybe recommend some off-brand solutions that I never see in the wild but come up used in Facebook and on the used sites of many resellers like Reverb or Guitar Center? Preferably Guitar Center - I have a credit there that will help pay for this.

For example - I've never seen Schroeder bass cabs in the wild - but I've heard great things!

BTW - The music and instruments I play - Electric and upright bass; all music from hard rock to classical on either one; Right now I'm gigging with both a classic rock group and a folk rock group. Also doing an occasional project with the upright featuring South-American jazz or South-American classical varieties. So - Clean tone preferred. Ampeg, Hartke and Peavey tested and don't work well with my upright so they are out.

Requirements:
  • Lightweight cab - as much as possible. My back is getting real bad. Cabs under 35lbs preferred but must be under 45. Over 35 and I'll use a handtruck if needed.
  • Cab must push some air. So - for 210 cabs vented are a must - I've used many sealed 210s in the past and they just don't push the low frequencies to the room.
  • Preferably a 210 cab or a 115 cab. No 212 cabs please. Either will greatly complement my Neo 212 if I ever go full stack at a crazy-large gig.
  • Cab - 8 ohms or switchable 4/8 ohms. No 4 ohms cabs please. I'd like to pair this with my Neo 212 in the future if possible.
  • Cab watts - can handle 400 watts or more.
  • Bass head - light weight - 200 watts minimum at 8 ohms.
I'm leaning towards picking up a GK 210 locally - they come up on occasion - for $200 - and then dropping the rest on a used GK Legacy head of GK Fusion head - but I'm completely open to more solutions.

No Markbass BTW - I love them new but I bought two used and both were dead within a week. That's why I'll try to buy the head from a retailer - I was able to return both. Markbass sounds great but after many posts eventually some dedicated Markbass user admits that you shouldn't but one used if its more than 10 years old.

Thanks all -

Mike
You have a lot of qualifier's there. Do you have FOH support? If you do, you can really scale things down. Not sure where you are located, but you may want to check out TalkBass Classifieds and see what is available. Second place I'd shop is GuitarCenter.com used gear. Their gear comes with a money back satisfaction guarantee and extended warranties are available.

Sorry for the back situation , and hope this is useful. Best wishes.
 
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You have a lot of qualifier's there. Do you have FOH support? If you do, you can really scale things down. Not sure where you are located, but you may want to check out TalkBass Classifieds and see what is available. Second place I'd shop is GuitarCenter.com used gear. Their gear comes with a money back satisfaction guarantee and extended warranties are available.

Sorry for the back situation , and hope this is useful. Best wishes.
For bigger shows I have a larger rig - I just too heavy to carry to weekly rehearsals and
You have a lot of qualifier's there. Do you have FOH support? If you do, you can really scale things down. Not sure where you are located, but you may want to check out TalkBass Classifieds and see what is available. Second place I'd shop is GuitarCenter.com used gear. Their gear comes with a money back satisfaction guarantee and extended warranties are available.

Sorry for the back situation , and hope this is useful. Best wishes.
 
Ampeg Portaflex 500 with 2x10 or 1x15 cab. Compared to the Crate, Fender and Carvin amps I used back in the day....the Ampeg is light as a feather.
Exactly. I sold my Ampeg SVT3-PRO/PR-410HLF rig that I used for 25 years (150+ lbs. total!!!) and replaced it with an Ampeg PF-500/Hartke HyDrive HD210/G-K NEO 115. MUCH lighter, and I can take just one of the cabs for smaller venues & rehearsals. The HD210 is a sealed cab though, but I've never found it lacking for power or tone. It was on closeout, as Hartke was just starting to replace it with the lighter HL210 (neo mags, 28 vs. 37 lbs.), so I got it for relatively cheap.
 
Sorry - I started to reply and accidentally hit post too early!

I need a solution for small shows of under 100 people or small bars with no FOH support and for band practice with a drummer and two guitars and keys. I have a larger, heavier rig for bigger shows - a GK RB700-ii with a GK Neo 212 cab. I love it. Love the sound - but its too heavy on my back to take to weekly practices with two different bands at two different locations.

I don't want to go combo because its another "single point of failure" - if I get a lighter bass head I can put in my backpack and a lightweight cab I can carry in one hand then I won't screw up my back taking it to practices and the lightweight head can serve as a backup for the GK RB700-ii at larger gigs. And if I want I can add the lightweight cab to complement the GK Neo 212 at even larger shows as well.

So - that's my reasoning. I was angling for a used GK MB210 combo before this - it has a speaker out and would complement by GK Neo 212 cab for shows - but a used GK MB210 combo would cost $700 with shipping. And if that breaks then I have to repeat that. If I spend the same amount on a small cab and head then if one breaks its a cheaper replacement.
 
Exactly. I sold my Ampeg SVT3-PRO/PR-410HLF rig that I used for 25 years (150+ lbs. total!!!) and replaced it with an Ampeg PF-500/Hartke HyDrive HD210/G-K NEO 115. MUCH lighter, and I can take just one of the cabs for smaller venues & rehearsals. The HD210 is a sealed cab though, but I've never found it lacking for power or tone. It was on closeout, as Hartke was just starting to replace it with the lighter HL210 (neo mags, 28 vs. 37 lbs.), so I got it for relatively cheap.
Thanks JoeyFab - I have an older Hartke 210XL cab - its sealed but only 200 watts at 8 ohms. I've tried but it can't give me the low frequencies at practice - expecially in one of the high-celing, concrete floor practice spaces I play in at one project. I heard that the newer HyDrive 210 sealed cab is much louder - its 400 watts at 8 ohms?
What do you think of the GK Neo 115? For the weight I thought it would be a good cab to bring to practice with perhaps a GK MB500 cab. It also would complement my larger rig well if I wanted to add it. I could get those both used for around $700 before tax and shipping - but some folks have them used occassionally within an hour or two where I live.
 
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