All parts squier / Fender

[AK Bass Guy]

As others have said and I can also confirm Fender and Squier have the same size heel and neck pocket. The 5 bolt bridges also known as FM1 are interchangeable but pots, control plates, and pickguards don’t always share the same screw patterns or diameters.

As far as what decal you want to put on your basses neck that is all up to you, but if you plan to sell it full disclosure on parts used on the bass to the buyer should be expected. Squier and Fender are not of the same in quality. Trying to pass off a Squier frankenbass as a Fender would be fraudulent and unethical.

 

[40Hz]

Would it be authentic to put a Fender decal on a Squier neck and say it is a Fender replacement part? Since it is a brand authorized by Fender

Short and simple answer: No.

 

[BRUNO Nunes]

I would not put a fender decal on an All Parts neck and I definitely wouldn’t put one on a Squier neck.

Squier necks and fender necks may be interchangeable, but they come out of different factories in different countries and to some people that means something. Putting a fender decal on a Squier neck and billing it as “All fender” implies that the parts came from countries that they did not come from.

You say this isn’t about selling something, but the only reason I can see to ask these questions is if you’re trying to sell a parts bass and you want to advertise it as something it’s not.

You drew the wrong conclusion.
It's easier to ask why before you say something you don't know.
It was a Frankenstein project based on Lee's, where it has a Fender neck and random parts. However, this bass is not a Fender and never will be. It was just a tribute bass. Since it has this detail, my initial idea was to go that way. That's why I said it has nothing to do with selling or trading.

 

[J Wilson]

Over time and many, many iterations of Fender and Squier built in many locations over the years, I always caution that dimension-wise there can be just enough difference where Neck A may or may not be an easy drop in replacement on Body B. This also applies to pickups, and most any hardware on these instruments.

Often, the parts will interchange, but they don't just often enough to require you to carefully measure before you buy.

Regarding Fender-licensed parts from Allparts, Warmoth, etc., these licenses allow them to build factory spec parts, but does not allow these makers to sell or mark them as genuine Fender. Unlicensed internet 'replacement' (uh-huh . . .) decals don't make them genuine, either.

There's rarely a week goes by here on TB where we don't get one more ' . . . is this a counterfeit ______________ '. No wonder.

 

[BRUNO Nunes]

As I said before... I wanted to make a Frankenstein based on Lee's, using a Fender neck and several other random parts. It was a project but I gave up. Then this question came to my mind, because in order to look like Lee's in appearance, it would have to have these details. He never said it was a Fender and I would never say that either, and I wouldn't sell it because it was a personal project that has no characteristics of a Fender bass. Any layman will know that this project was not a Fender, but a Frankenstein with a Fender neck. as Lee himself mentioned about his Frankstein. It's not a Fender but rather several parts and coincidentally, it has a Fender neck.
That's all.

 

[elgranluis]

Hello.
Squier is a licensed brand of Fender. Can we consider Squier replacement parts as all Fender parts? Does that make sense?
for example, an neck.

I see your point. Yeah I guess they could be considered as “original fender “ replacement parts as they use the actual fender headstock shape which is licensed to all parts , warmoth and mighty mite.

I would personally see no harm in you using a fender logo in the same way that you would use it in an all parts neck , as it’s your personal property. The issue starts when the bass leave as your hands , and then someone else misrepresents it, someone buys it , and then we have a new member with a new thread: “ is this fender bass real ?”

If you decide to install a fender decal , leave the serial number intact so people can see it’s a squier.

 

[Bar Band Bassman]

I have a Ray SUB 4 neck that I did cosmetic work on (filling some dings and whatnot). The process stripped the decal from the headstock. Played it for quite a while with no decal but finally got tired of it being so "naked" so I bought a repro waterslide Stingray decal. Couldn't find a SUB 4 decal! But in either case I would absolutely NOT represent it as a 'Ray, or even an original SUB 4. I get a lot of questions about it when I play it and always point out that it's not actually a 'Ray. To do otherwise would be fraud.

BBB

 

[H K]

I understand. But the question is... can a Squier neck be considered a replacement for a Fender body? Would it be authentic to put a Fender decal on a Squier neck and say it is a Fender replacement part? Since it is a brand authorized by Fender

Absolutely not. They're different companies and different price point. The parts may fit, but no, a squier part is never a Fender part.

 

[BismarckHerring]

It’s not a authentic, bit who cares? Neither is a decal on an Allparts neck. It’s your bass, you can do whatever you want with it. There may even be legitimate reason to do it: you won’t have to deal with idiots telling you that you suck because you use a Squier. Just be very open about it if you ever decide to sell the bass or the neck (mention it in the description, provide a photo of the serial number).

 

[el murdoque]

It's not a complex question and easily answered, too.
If it says Fender on the headstock, it is a Fender.
If you have to put a Fender decal on the headstock, it is not a Fender.

 

[DonaldR]

I've bought a bunch of MIM jazz bodies and necks and have never had a poor neck pocket fit, misaligned holes, or any other fitment problem. I didn't do as many P basses but they were as good as the Jazz stuff when it came fitment and hole alignment. Don't know how that would translate to Squier but if you stay in the MIM universe, you should have little to no problems if my esperience is any indication of the quality of fit and finish of necks to bodies among MIM basses.

Good for you if you were able to interchange Squier and MIM parts without any problem. But I'm sceptical that can you put any Fender MIM neck on any Squier body or any MIM tuners on any Squier neck and they fit perfectly 100% of the time.

 

[sissy kathy]

Good for you if you were able to interchange Squier and MIM parts without any problem. But I'm sceptical that can you put any Fender MIM neck on any Squier body or any MIM tuners on any Squier neck and they fit perfectly 100% of the time.

No one said anything about them fitting perfectly. Fender necks don't even fit Fender bodies perfectly. Many, many, Fenders directly from the factory have shims and misaligned necks. Perfectly fitting Fender necks are an Utopian idea that is seldom met.

To answer the OP's question, Squier parts are no more Fender parts than Toyota parts are Lexus parts. They may be made by the same company, they may even be interchangeable, but that doesn't make them the same thing.

 

[FullumMusic]

Squier replacement parts aren't Fender replacement parts, even if they fit.

Obviously you can do whatever you want to your instrument. You can put whatever decal on anything you own.
Obviously if you don't disclose that it's a Squier neck when you try to sell it, that would be misrepresenting the product. Slapping a Fender on a head doesn't make it a Fender. Doesn't matter if it's a licensed AllParts or Warmoth or Squier, or an unlicensed Ali Express knockoff, or a neck from a more expensive boutique custom builder.

If Squier was Fender, they'd be sold under the Fender brand. They're not. They're sold as "Squier" with "by Fender" in tiny letters. If All Parts or Warmoth was Fender, they'd be sold with the Fender sticker already on it.

 

[fhm555]

Good for you if you were able to interchange Squier and MIM parts without any problem. But I'm sceptical that can you put any Fender MIM neck on any Squier body or any MIM tuners on any Squier neck and they fit perfectly 100% of the time.

Again, I have failed to properly convey my thoughts. I have no experience with Squier, but I do have quite a bit with MIM bass necks and bodies. They rival US made Peaveys in consistency of finished dimensions and location accuracy. I've played a few Squiers but never owned one so I have never had any reason to know if MIM necks and bodies are interchangeable with Pac Rim necks and bodies.
What I do know is I've bought a crap ton of random MIM bass bodies and necks and have never had any problem with dimensional accuracy or fit with those two components, even when chosen totally at random as they floated up in the used market. The only inconsistencies I ever had to deal with on MIM bodies were cosmetic, and never had any problems with MIM necks beyond a lower level of finish on the neck edges when compared to MIA necks. Some were rougher than others and if it was too bad I got the neck edges rolled.
Either way, the only way to find out what fits what is to get them in hand and try them.
If I was thinking about trying a Pac Rim neck with an MIM body or vice versa, I'd start with some drawings and compare the dimensions I wanted to interchange. If they agreed I'd get the parts I wanted and try them. I suspect the Pac Rim stuff will be like the MIM stuff, very interchangeable with other components from the same source, but when it comes to mixing country of origin the only way to know for sure is get parts in hand and take the plunge. If it fails to work out, the classifieds are your friend.

 

[DonaldR]

Again, I have failed to properly convey my thoughts. I have no experience with Squier, but I do have quite a bit with MIM bass necks and bodies. They rival US made Peaveys in consistency of finished dimensions and location accuracy. I've played a few Squiers but never owned one so I have never had any reason to know if MIM necks and bodies are interchangeable with Pac Rim necks and bodies.
What I do know is I've bought a crap ton of random MIM bass bodies and necks and have never had any problem with dimensional accuracy or fit with those two components, even when chosen totally at random as they floated up in the used market. The only inconsistencies I ever had to deal with on MIM bodies were cosmetic, and never had any problems with MIM necks beyond a lower level of finish on the neck edges when compared to MIA necks. Some were rougher than others and if it was too bad I got the neck edges rolled.
Either way, the only way to find out what fits what is to get them in hand and try them.
If I was thinking about trying a Pac Rim neck with an MIM body or vice versa, I'd start with some drawings and compare the dimensions I wanted to interchange. If they agreed I'd get the parts I wanted and try them. I suspect the Pac Rim stuff will be like the MIM stuff, very interchangeable with other components from the same source, but when it comes to mixing country of origin the only way to know for sure is get parts in hand and take the plunge. If it fails to work out, the classifieds are your friend.

Exactly what I was saying

 

[DonaldR]

No one said anything about them fitting perfectly. Fender necks don't even fit Fender bodies perfectly. Many, many, Fenders directly from the factory have shims and misaligned necks. Perfectly fitting Fender necks are an Utopian idea that is seldom met.

To answer the OP's question, Squier parts are no more Fender parts than Toyota parts are Lexus parts. They may be made by the same company, they may even be interchangeable, but that doesn't make them the same thing.

Exactly what I was saying

 

[ADHD librarian]

As I said before... I wanted to make a Frankenstein based on Lee's, using a Fender neck and several other random parts. It was a project but I gave up. Then this question came to my mind, because in order to look like Lee's in appearance, it would have to have these details. He never said it was a Fender and I would never say that either, and I wouldn't sell it because it was a personal project that has no characteristics of a Fender bass. Any layman will know that this project was not a Fender, but a Frankenstein with a Fender neck. as Lee himself mentioned about his Frankstein. It's not a Fender but rather several parts and coincidentally, it has a Fender neck.
That's all.

A Squier neck would fit & putting a decal on to create the look you want isn't hard.
As for it reproducing a specific bass...
A Squier neck can have: differently spaced & sized tuner holes, a different profile on the headstock shape, different neck profile & radius, different frets...
If you look at this image, you can see that on the Squier the round bit on the top is smaller and the curve on the right (treble) side is fatter and has less 'shape'. You'll also see that the truss rod access is quite ugly on this one (that is because the original was badly drilled and restricted access, so I had to extend it with a dremel. But it never had the rosewood? tube that the Fender has to pretty it up). The different tuner spacing is also obvious, you can see the G tuner is much more closer to the top of the headstock.
Probably most of this will not be obvious (unless your tribute is sitting next to the original) but if you want it to look 100% authentic you'd need to fill & re-drill the tuner holes, re-sculpt the (slightly larger) treble-side angle and then work out a way to make the old hole plugs invisible?