Giving the whole generative thing a try in VCV Rack...
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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Sounds good @lucas303
I recorded yesterday but couldn't post, so here are two. The theme is unsuccessful granulation / successful granulation. Maybe. I am thrilled that I am halfway through the month. There are nights like tonight where I don't really want to do anything but it's the commitment to the idea. Tomorrow may have to be off -- we'll see.
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I recorded yesterday but couldn't post, so here are two. The theme is unsuccessful granulation / successful granulation. Maybe. I am thrilled that I am halfway through the month. There are nights like tonight where I don't really want to do anything but it's the commitment to the idea. Tomorrow may have to be off -- we'll see.
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- Mar 8, 2011
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Hey fellas. Thanks for sharing all the great music!
Last night's activities...
Fretless UBass with lots of distortion (Trash 2, Blades with the drive cranked, Peradam) and granular processing (Beads throughout and Velvet Machine to start). Synth parts are Akemie's Castle through Imitor, and Mimeophon with Melotus Versio and Lacrima Versio.
The bass part was tricky to play because the sound would come out seconds after I played it. I had a first take where the Akemie's part was rhythmically gated instead of smooth LFOs, but that just made me try to play on the beat and it didn't work. So I changed directions for the second take.
If I were doing this again and wanted timing to align with other parts, I might record the bass part first (to a metronome) and then layer other parts on top of it.
Fretless UBass with lots of distortion (Trash 2, Blades with the drive cranked, Peradam) and granular processing (Beads throughout and Velvet Machine to start). Synth parts are Akemie's Castle through Imitor, and Mimeophon with Melotus Versio and Lacrima Versio.
The bass part was tricky to play because the sound would come out seconds after I played it. I had a first take where the Akemie's part was rhythmically gated instead of smooth LFOs, but that just made me try to play on the beat and it didn't work. So I changed directions for the second take.
If I were doing this again and wanted timing to align with other parts, I might record the bass part first (to a metronome) and then layer other parts on top of it.
I assume that's because of the granular...? If so wouldn't mixing in some dry signal help? Or were you running through a DAW as well so you had the computer latency to deal with?
Because of the granular, yeah. Latency going into the DAW (once) is just noticeable but not bad. But I was playing with reverse grains, triggered at random, with a slow attack envelope, and... in retrospect I might also have had a completely unnecessary time offset too, I'm not sure I checked for that.
Usually when I use Beads as an effect I keep the Time knob at minimum, so I kind of assume that's where I left it.
Uploaded this before bed last night, first track off the latest Helium Road album:
Oooooof. Sometimes the worst part of a chronic illness is not the symptoms but the part time job navigating the medical system. Absolutely destroyed my work week, hence my art week. By Tuesday night I was already messed up -- I even had to skip to band practice and go to bed at 8pm. But now I'm back it. I'm working on ways to vary beats between oscillators in an intentional way. I spent a bunch of time trying to get the Vector Sequencer to do it, but I don't think it will. I may need a precision adder and another voltage source to pull it off the way I want to do it. Instead, I just routed the Perfourmer's LFOs to pitch, ran them slowly and in quadrature, and experimented with different shapes. Beads was for texture up high but it's a little bleep bloopy for my tastes. I have other ideas there.
in vector each part cab have its own microtonal scale. since some are "close" you could get some interesting rubs.
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@steubig do you edit your own scales or just get them from somewhere? I tried all sorts of workarounds on the Vector. Pitch bend isn’t available in the cc menu; lfo to pitch is only available in semitones.
you can find them in the control section for each part. look on page 6 of the manual, which has a list of the scales (if you haven't already). i know some people have made their own, but i'm too lazy and unenterprising to do that.
seems to me that you could do things like one part in regular chromatic and one in harm 60 (apparently a wendy carlos thing) or justified, etc., and then having them play alongside each other to get some nice rubs going on.
when using the vector, since i'm not really worrying about strict chromatic/diatonic tonality on the modular, i tend to tune a bunch of oscillators to a nice cloud/cluster and then have each voice getting either its own sequence or a note in a string of "chords" with tuning being 1/4 tone or harm 60, etc. some of it is a bit unpredictable, but for me it's mostly about timbre and tuning to taste. (not saying that's a good way to do it!)
I can appreciate and understand that.
For me, it’s not just my handicap, which I’ve adjusted to for the most part but it’s still a momentum killer, but navigating my insurance policy regarding my car theft. Oh. Btw, for those keeping score, my stolen car was recovered and scheduled for repairs next week… until… it was stolen again last night. Now I’ve got a second claim to manage. I’m back in the rental. I hope I have enough energy to work on music this weekend. I need the escape.
Wow. Twice? That is some seriously rough luck. And insurance is the absolute worst.
You must live in a pretty rough neighborhood. Best wishes to you going forward.
I'm not saying this to be snide or anything like that, but have you considered moving?
