I figure as long as Theo Von has a presence, any musician this side of GG Allin is effectively unfettered.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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I figure as long as Theo Von has a presence, any musician this side of GG Allin is effectively unfettered.
I think that’s the loop. Absorb theory. Let it drive for a while. Then pop it in the backseat and let instinct take the wheel. Crash into a few things and let theory say I told you so. Then let an enlightened instinct have at it. Rinse, repeat.
It’s obviously not as real as gg Allin but it’s shocked a few people that were supposedly not able to be shocked hah
A bit like that meme of the people that will listen to anything.. then you turn on some nice soothing death metal
i have a pretty good understanding of music theory, but also hope for the best a lot of the time.
Same x2
"Music theory is just a tool for providing hope."
I do not think rock is dead. But I also don’t miss the drunk a**holes of the 2nd frame of the image nor the dudebro aspects of it. And I never liked arena shows. Small venues and subculture is fine for me.
I’m in Minnesota caring for family who are recovering from surgery. Saturday night I went and saw Big Brave in St Paul. Balm for the soul.
(Not my show but same lineup.)
I’m in Minnesota caring for family who are recovering from surgery. Saturday night I went and saw Big Brave in St Paul. Balm for the soul.
(Not my show but same lineup.)
I figured it was about time I tried playing bass through Spectraphon. The catch is:
- without pitch tracking it's kind of not that interesting, except perhaps for drones with the right treatment.
- pitch tracking pretty much sucks.
- but within those limitations you can kind of use it for weird distortion or... effects you could probably get more easily with other methods to be honest. And some hard to classify stuff.
This is where I wound up:
- Miezo into the DAW, my usual EQ/comp stuff. JamOrigin MIDI Bass, with pitch converted to CV in Bitwig Grid.
- Audio into Mimeophon L input. Mimeophon L output into Spectraphon in SAM mode. Spectraphon odd harmonic output to Mimeophon R input. Spectraphon even and Mimeophon R output in mid/side. A bit of Velvet Machine.
- Spectraphon had some FM, but its envelope follower turned it down (more volume = less FM). During this section of the jam I pretty much didn't touch Slide or Focus.
- Mimeophon's delay time was being modulated by an LFO. Halo was up pretty high.
- All the crazy glitchiness came from the pitch signal just being that unstable. I've fought with it before to set sensitivity, use S&H/T&H to try to hold the pitch while the level is too low, etc. with very little improvement most of the time, mostly just trading one kind of glitch for another.
(To be fair, more FM index while quiet kind of emphasized the glitchiness I suppose.)
miezo mimeo spectra.mp3
- without pitch tracking it's kind of not that interesting, except perhaps for drones with the right treatment.
- pitch tracking pretty much sucks.
- but within those limitations you can kind of use it for weird distortion or... effects you could probably get more easily with other methods to be honest. And some hard to classify stuff.
This is where I wound up:
- Miezo into the DAW, my usual EQ/comp stuff. JamOrigin MIDI Bass, with pitch converted to CV in Bitwig Grid.
- Audio into Mimeophon L input. Mimeophon L output into Spectraphon in SAM mode. Spectraphon odd harmonic output to Mimeophon R input. Spectraphon even and Mimeophon R output in mid/side. A bit of Velvet Machine.
- Spectraphon had some FM, but its envelope follower turned it down (more volume = less FM). During this section of the jam I pretty much didn't touch Slide or Focus.
- Mimeophon's delay time was being modulated by an LFO. Halo was up pretty high.
- All the crazy glitchiness came from the pitch signal just being that unstable. I've fought with it before to set sensitivity, use S&H/T&H to try to hold the pitch while the level is too low, etc. with very little improvement most of the time, mostly just trading one kind of glitch for another.
(To be fair, more FM index while quiet kind of emphasized the glitchiness I suppose.)
miezo mimeo spectra.mp3
To clarify: Spectraphon doesn't do pitch tracking itself, it's like a fancy dual vocoder and you have to set its pitch (and the frequency range it's listening for) with knobs/CV like any oscillator.
Pitch tracking pretty much sucks universally, it's a hard problem and nobody seems to have gotten it consistently right, as far as I've been able to tell.
It occurs to me, I could use a sequencer for the pitch, but still play the bass through Spectraphon. I could even use an envelope follower to trigger the sequencer advancing. That just locks me into whatever I programmed on the sequencer, but it'd do the job. Or if I'm not using the dry signal from the bass, I could play it one-handed and use the left hand for a keyboard/touchpad for pitch... hmm.
I think guitar and guitar but could be wrong. Tuned low.
I came across this in my travels and for some reason thought of @monsterthompson. Be sure to click through to read the “liner notes.”
I love that guy's videos, really entertaining, but you gotta pay attention to catch all the memes.
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That’s been getting very mixed reviews. I heard someone describe it as “chill meditation music that keeps you awake.” Close enough
I’ve lurked in this thread from time to time and thought I’d share a song my band just recorded recently. May not be the best fit here, but has a good degree of ambience/atmosphere. I wrote and did the vocals for this one. The bass line at the beginning and end was partially inspired by Carnage Visors by the Cure.
Just as a disclaimer—this was recorded live in studio and doesn’t have the best production
Just as a disclaimer—this was recorded live in studio and doesn’t have the best production
Sounds like this could be his “vault” stuff from 1992.27582154[/URL], member: 188059"]That’s been getting very mixed reviews. I heard someone describe it as “chill meditation music that keeps you awake.” Close enough
Tracker Amiga type stuff
Not complaining, anything RDJ is worth a listen.
- Mar 8, 2011
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