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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

Ha! Moon Boot Lover. They're from my area. When they came up there were soooo many great bands up here at that time. They're still around. Whenever they play a good friend plays bass for them.

I still listen to MBL all the time. Back in the day, Pete and the crew would stay at my place when they played Binghamton or nearby. Pete invited me to jam w them at an Albany gig. Was so cool.being brought out as a special guest.
 
fred hopkins is a bad man.

Euphemism. Jeez.....
I freakin love the no piano trio format.
(Like Paragone with Rivers, Holland and Altchul.)

NYC had Willam Parker. (Ima huge David S Ware fanboy.)
CHI had Fred Hopkins.

I’m flipping out right now......on the 2nd straight Air album.....going on the 3rd.
This is gonna be spinning for quite a while.

Huge thanks for turning me on to this.
(Pays virtual drinK)
 
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Any records I should start with??
Looks like you're binging on Air records today. That's right where I would have suggested beginning.

The record that began it all for me was Where's Your Cup? It also was the record that turned me on to Stomu, Myra Melford and Brandon Ross. Brilliant album.

Any of his Very Very Circus group records.

Any of his Zooid group records. This music that he's written in the past 10 years with this band is like none other. It's very particular and in a class of it's own.

A GREAT record from 2015 that he's on is Made In Chicago, with Jack Dejohnette, Muhal Richard Abrahms, Larry Gray and Roscoe Mitchell. So great.
 
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Any of his Zooid group records. This music that he's written in the past 10 years with this band is like none other. It's very particular and in a class of it's own.

a lot of that is due to his pitch organization. he’s got a whole system based on intervals (not keys) and how they interact with each other and branch out. i went to a talk he gave at ucla. a lot of us tried to make heads or tails out of it after the fact. very intense stuff. anyway, his players all have to know how this stuff works (so hats off to stomu for that).

threadgill was also a very generous and cool guy.
 
a lot of that is due to his pitch organization. he’s got a whole system based on intervals (not keys) and how they interact with each other and branch out. i went to a talk he gave at ucla. a lot of us tried to make heads or tails out of it after the fact. very intense stuff. anyway, his players all have to know how this stuff works (so hats off to stomu for that).

threadgill was also a very generous and cool guy.
Care to elaborate on this « intervals » organization?
So I can also « not understand » it.

Like Steve Coleman, I listened to one of his master classes online, he lost me after a few secs.......
My brain said: « nope....I’m out!! See y’a. »
 
How the Efff did I miss Air with Threadgill????
I know a lot of the dudes around them like the Art E of CH, AACM collective....., Chico, Braxton, Bowie.....etc.....

First record I heard out of there was Stance a Sophie by the AEOC.

Someone kick me in the B@llzz please.
I really like Threadgill's solo stuff, too, gets really out there.
 
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Care to elaborate on this « intervals » organization?
So I can also « not understand » it.

Like Steve Coleman, I listened to one of his master classes online, he lost me after a few secs.......
My brain said: « nope....I’m out!! See y’a. »

lol. if i could adequately describe it, i would have tried by now.

sorta melody cells that branch out from each other based on the intervals in the melody????
 
Went on a HUGE Air binge yesterday.
About 4 hours worth of listening. At 8 pm, listened till I fell asleep.
Woke at 4 am and jammed Open Air Suite twice.

Like a sledgehammer to the back of the head, I’m still floored. Exactly what I needed at this exact moment in time.
The interaction and level of interplay/listening in this trio is next dimension shizzle.
I’m extremely impressed by Hopkins work with the bow, extremely creative and very precise. His attack of notes with the bow is soooooo tasty and commanding. No screeching « floppy » initial attack, very crisp and articulated .Nuances are incredible.
Perfect fit for my « usual weird @$$ » self.

I cant thank you enough for sharing such incredible music.
@steubig
@emjazz
@Bob_Ross
 
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Ain't discovery awesome? :::beer:::
Damn straight it is.
I love discovering new stuff, this time it hit my like an atomic bomb. Especially since its a Bass, drum, woodwind trio.
:)

Just kicking myself because I came soooo close to knowing about them way back from listening to Art E of CHi , Braxton, Chico, Bowie and all the cats from the Chicago scene.
 
Care to elaborate on this « intervals » organization?
So I can also « not understand » it.

Like Steve Coleman, I listened to one of his master classes online, he lost me after a few secs.......
My brain said: « nope....I’m out!! See y’a. »

Have you ever seen Steve Coleman play live? Not understanding it is not always such a bad place to be coming from...:cool:
 
Have you ever seen Steve Coleman play live? Not understanding it is not always such a bad place to be coming from...:cool:
Never live but I have about 10 of his albums. First heard his stuff with 5 elements back in 97 ishhh....

I freakin love his album triplicate with Holland and Dejohnette.

Not uderstanding doesn't bother me at all as long as the power/energy et magic sauce is there.
 
Never live but I have about 10 offre vos albums. Here....first heard vos stuff Word 5 elements Zack in 97 ishhh....

I freakin love his album triplicate with Holland and Dejohnette.

I first became aware of him at a show back in the mid 80s when he was in Holland's great quintet. The same small Seattle club had in Jack D's band with David Murray the same week too.
 
Went on a HUGE Air binge yesterday.
About 4 hours worth of listening. At 8 pm, listened till I fell asleep.
Woke at 4 am and jammed Open Air Suite twice.

Like a sledgehammer to the back of the head, I’m still floored. Exactly what I needed at this exact moment in time.
The interaction and level of interplay/listening in this trio is next dimension shizzle.
I’m extremely impressed by Hopkins work with the bow, extremely creative and very precise. His attack of notes with the bow is soooooo tasty and commanding. No screeching « floppy » initial attack, very crisp and articulated .Nuances are incredible.
Perfect fit for my « usual weird @$$ » self.

I cant thank you enough for sharing such incredible music.
@steubig
@emjazz
@Bob_Ross
Different, but made me think of another favorite group....do you know Old and New Dreams? One of my favorite groups, ever.