Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

[ugly_bassplayer]

I like the vinyl record sounds, is that intentional or just happy accident? Where does that come from?

Classic mfx 16 on the SP my friend.
Vinyl sim fx. Adds some tasty compression also to the beats.

 

[Spectrum]

Classic mfx 16 on the SP my friend.
Vinyl sim fx. Adds some tasty compression also to the beats.

I don't know what most of that means, but thanks.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

I don't know what most of that means, but thanks.

Its an onboard effect on the sp303 and sp404.

Many ways of implementing it since the SP is one fx per pad. Then you have to resample to add another one.....etc....

So the possibilities and combos are endless. Plus you have to balance levels as you go. You can't go back 5 steps....and say....oups.....kick is too loud. Too late.

 

[Spectrum]

I think Chase Bliss actually makes a pedal that simulates old vinyl sounds, the Warped Vinyl.

 

[monsterthompson]

All made with SP404sx. No computer, no daw.
Just for fun beats. Still workin in it.
Still have to put in lots of time and practice.

Cheers. (also posted in feedback friday thread)
Sharing kicks my @$$ to keep pumping out some stuff.
Might not all be good, but at least work is getting done.

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go cat go

 

[monsterthompson]

I think Chase Bliss actually makes a pedal that simulates old vinyl sounds, the Warped Vinyl.

years of development for clear, clean sounding signals and effects, to arrive at a premium priced pedal that makes your pristine signal sound like it was recorded on an old crackling system
Progress!

 

[Spectrum]

years of development for clear, clean sounding signals and effects, to arrive at a premium priced pedal that makes your pristine signal sound like it was recorded on an old crackling system
Progress!

Same could be said for distortion. The whole idea of electric guitar amplification was to make a guitar loud enough to be heard over a jazz orchestra. Distortion was something to be avoided. Now there are thousands of models of distortion pedals and amps designed to distort.

Also, grain in black and white photography. Ansel Adams was the leader of a movement to make photography as perfect and high resolution as possible, but it turns out lots of photographers and viewers like seeing heavy grain depending on the subject matter, like gritty street photos etc.

And now in the current times there is a weird kind of nostalgia for 70s and 80s, often by people too young to remember that time. Hence the revival of 80s music, analog synths, and vinyl records with all their comforting imperfections.

Low fidelity turns out to have an appeal all its own.

 

[monsterthompson]

Same could be said for distortion. The whole idea of electric guitar amplification was to make a guitar loud enough to be heard over a jazz orchestra. Distortion was something to be avoided. Now there are thousands of models of distortion pedals and amps designed to distort.

Also, grain in black and white photography. Ansel Adams was the leader of a movement to make photography as perfect and high resolution as possible, but it turns out lots of photographers and viewers like seeing heavy grain depending on the subject matter, like gritty street photos etc.

And now in the current times there is a weird kind of nostalgia for 70s and 80s, often by people too young to remember that time. Hence the revival of 80s music, analog synths, and vinyl records with all their comforting imperfections.

Low fidelity turns out to have an appeal all its own.

totally. it is different to have low fidelity forced upon you vs. selecting the fidelity you want.

 

[monsterthompson]

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

years of development for clear, clean sounding signals and effects, to arrive at a premium priced pedal that makes your pristine signal sound like it was recorded on an old crackling system
Progress!

Who you calling old . (Ok not as not as some others here that where around before wax rolls)
I grew up on that "nostalgia".
Damn I miss my favorite cassette tape getting chewed up in my buddies tape deck.

No get off my lawn!!!!!

 

[HotelX]

I think Chase Bliss actually makes a pedal that simulates old vinyl sounds, the Warped Vinyl.

Warped vinyl does the wow and flutter kinda thing if you want but no groove/dust noise.

 

[Spectrum]

Warped vinyl does the wow and flutter kinda thing if you want but no groove/dust noise.

Oh? Huh. Interesting. Makes me wonder if there's a way to duplicate that dust noise live...

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Oh? Huh. Interesting. Makes me wonder if there's a way to duplicate that dust noise live...

I know lots of pluggins can do this.
Including one that is standard in Ableton since....forever.

In pedal form....I have no idea.

You could easily run a sample in a looper for live use though.

totally. it is different to have low fidelity forced upon you vs. selecting the fidelity you want.

I'll take a good song on a crap recording over a bad song on the most hi fi shizzle any day of the week.

 

[Spectrum]

I don't use computers, especially for live stuff, for a variety of reasons. Sample looper? Hmm...I could see that. Maybe record an actual record's quiet spot to a Ditto Looper pedal or something.

 

[Spectrum]

I'll take a good song on a crap recording over a bad song on the most hi fi shizzle any day of the week.

Amen to that. (Sorry, these vids are about as far from ambient bass as you can get, but they make the point)

 

[steubig]

fwiw, i believe the first fuzz pedals were marketed as helping one’s guitar to sound like a saxophone.

 

[dukeorock]

Amen to that. (Sorry, these vids are about as far from ambient bass as you can get, but they make the point)

Love both of those acts and have seen both live. Good stuff! Hasil A played every instrument on that stuff and had a very primitive overdub method of going from one cheap Cutting lathe to another.

 

[dukeorock]

Another jam with the EssenceFM sequenced by the Octatrack, but no samples

 

[Flabzilla]

fwiw, i believe the first fuzz pedals were marketed as helping one’s guitar to sound like a saxophone.

The demo was on vinyl. Skip through the intro to get to it.

 

[monsterthompson]

hey,

so been a while. many interesting things to write about.

dweller: sounds interesting on guitar. i wonder how much of that comes through in lower frequencies—and how it is useful for *us* . . . . thoughts?

In the name of science, I wired up a Zoia patch with a phaser into a delay, feeding back on itself. I even incorporated a bit of drive and reverb at one point. I’ll say that I like the phasing effect more than a flanger or chorus (unless I’m playing Type O Negative), as it can be a bit more subtle and doesn’t have the same modulation pitch wobble feel as those effects do. My ear seemed to be drawn to anything above the C or D on the A string. Open A or lower started getting into a depth which made it harder to notice the effect, and by the time you got to an open E it seemed to ruin the sound of the E more than create a desirable effect. If I can fine tune the patch and play something decent then I’ll post a clip.

This was tested with my PJ Mustang (short scale) into Zoia into the mixer.