Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

[steubig]

lol

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

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[Spectrum]

Apparently, the higher ups at Arturia are pissed about this. I'd love to see Behringer get sued to death even more than I'd love for them to have an original idea.
MATRIXSYNTH: Arturia & Axel Hartman Respond to Behringer's New SWING

Linked from that page is this: MATRIXSYNTH: Oops They Did it Again - Behringer Introduces the Swing USB MIDI Controller Keyboard

The photoshop job about halfway down the page is pretty funny. Can't repost it here for fear of getting infracted.

I have a Behringer BSY600 synth pedal, got it about 8 years ago or so. Thing about it is, it's not an exact clone of the Boss SYB-5; it has slightly different features and of course the cheap plastic case. I'm cool with that, but this looks like a blatant ripoff.

 

[lordradish]

i once looked at the behringer wikipedia page for some information about tc electronic (which they now own).

there's a whole section on the companies that have sued behringer as well as the infamous "kirn corksniffer" . . . pretty crazy.

I was real disappointed to see that TC was in that group, as I think they make good stuff, for the most part.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

I was real disappointed to see that TC was in that group, as I think they make good stuff, for the most part.

Tell that to my buddy who had 2 ditto x2 blow up in one week.
Full refund. Bye bye TC

 

[steubig]

kaizen is a thing toyota and a few other japanese auto manufacturers pride themselves on. looks like uli borrowed that concept, which is not a bad thing.

 

[Spectrum]

kaizen is a thing toyota and a few other japanese auto manufacturers pride themselves on. looks like uli borrowed that concept, which is not a bad thing.

I worked for a very large company that, for a while, was on a corporate fad of the month kick. We went through that kaizen crap. I am guessing that maybe it works for Japanese companies since they invented the idea, but for us it was complete BS just like all the other fads. Wasting our time in silly meetings that remind me of being pitched to buy a time share.

Here in the DC area there are lots of small "Beltway Bandit" firms that make money selling silly "innovative" ideas to big companies looking for an edge. Motivational speaking and so on. One time we had a couple of guys from one of these firms come in to run a "team building exercise". My manager "strongly suggested" we attend. This consisted of these two jokers showing us a picture, then splitting us into teams, and assigning each team to paint a portion of the picture, using finger paints, to see if we could assemble our paintings together to form a full picture.

Finger paints. Really.

I'm an engineer. I had work to do. I got up in the middle of the session and walked out the door to go back to my desk so I could do my job. My team lead, also former military, saw me walk in and laughed. He knew not to go down there in the first place. I can't imagine how much time and money my company wasted on con man crap like that. By the time I left that job my team had actually produced useful results. The other teams spent all their time making stupid powerpoint slide projects that went nowhere.

But at least they were up to speed on the latest kaizen style nonsense. Maybe it works for Behringer...

 

[steubig]

I worked for a very large company that, for a while, was on a corporate fad of the month kick. We went through that kaizen crap. I am guessing that maybe it works for Japanese companies since they invented the idea, but for us it was complete BS just like all the other fads. Wasting our time in silly meetings that remind me of being pitched to buy a time share.

Here in the DC area there are lots of small "Beltway Bandit" firms that make money selling silly "innovative" ideas to big companies looking for an edge. Motivational speaking and so on. One time we had a couple of guys from one of these firms come in to run a "team building exercise". My manager "strongly suggested" we attend. This consisted of these two jokers showing us a picture, then splitting us into teams, and assigning each team to paint a portion of the picture, using finger paints, to see if we could assemble our paintings together to form a full picture.

Finger paints. Really.

I'm an engineer. I had work to do. I got up in the middle of the session and walked out the door to go back to my desk so I could do my job. My team lead, also former military, saw me walk in and laughed. He knew not to go down there in the first place. I can't imagine how much time and money my company wasted on con man crap like that. By the time I left that job my team had actually produced useful results. The other teams spent all their time making stupid powerpoint slide projects that went nowhere.

But at least they were up to speed on the latest kaizen style nonsense. Maybe it works for Behringer...

the kaizen thing for autos has to do with production standards for their vehicles/manufacturing processes, which makes a lot pf sense, imo.

i work copyedit for companies that do auto training.

one company i worked for also did “performance improvement,” so i’m familiar with what you’re talking about. we always laughed at corporate meetings where they hired an outside consultant to sell us the same snake oil that we made. “could we go back to doing something useful?”

 

[cosmicevan]

I work in high tech and manufacturing and kaizen, six sigma, poka yoke, etc all work amazing if you do them right. Much like agile development processes, many companies do what appears to be the right things on the surface, but they are missing the larger meaning. It's less about ceremonies and evidence of process and more about value derived from process.

That stuff has nothing to do with ripping off competitor technology, it's all about manufacturing in a cost effective way that minimizes waste. The tech ripping off is just slimy. It's even worse than advertising something is limited to 1000 units to sell out only to then make more. "business ethics" lol...that's like "dry water"

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Holy effin shizzzzz:....wow.
That flow, the band.........Those back up singers.....I’m at a loss for words. So musical,
I need to go lie down.

 

[monsterthompson]

You ever have one of those creative ideas that’s weird enough that you kinda don’t want to share it with anyone because it’s the right balance of weird and unique and interesting?

I just had one of those ideas.

 

[lordradish]

You ever have one of those creative ideas that’s weird enough that you kinda don’t want to share it with anyone because it’s the right balance of weird and unique and interesting?

I just had one of those ideas.

That's all of my ideas.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Ali Shaheed Muhammad (from ATCQ) and Adrian Young on sampling and playing instruments.
Basically playing your own samples.
How they compliment each other. How sampling has evolved from the 60s to now.
Very interesting interview. 2 extremely creative dudes.
(Y’a, its a fender video and they plug the Pbass, strat and tele, but very briefly)

 

[steubig]

You ever have one of those creative ideas that’s weird enough that you kinda don’t want to share it with anyone because it’s the right balance of weird and unique and interesting?

I just had one of those ideas.

bot sure i follow.

you mean it’s such a good idea that other people would steal it?

 

[monsterthompson]

bot sure i follow.

you mean it’s such a good idea that other people would steal it?

Sorta. It’s a quirky enough way of making noises that it isn’t a million dollar idea, but it could be a bit of a “secret sauce” that I want to keep as my secret.

 

[steubig]

of course, there are ideas where the success depends more on how you execute them than on the idea.

 

[Bob_Ross]

of course, there are ideas where the success depends more on how you execute them than on the idea.

That should be inscribed on your diploma when you get a degree in musical composition.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

That should be inscribed on your diploma when you get a degree in musical composition.

Arent those unemployment papers?

 

[steubig]

lol

 

[steubig]

Ali Shaheed Muhammad (from ATCQ) and Adrian Young on sampling and playing instruments.
Basically playing your own samples.
How they compliment each other. How sampling has evolved from the 60s to now.
Very interesting interview. 2 extremely creative dudes.
(Y’a, its a fender video and they plug the Pbass, strat and tele, but very briefly)

cool.

there’s also one with mononeon, which is also pretty cool.

interesting that fender is going this way with advertising.