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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

that might be luck. maybe that no name cable is actually a really good one.

i’ve had situations where i wondered why the volume was so much lower the frequency range was so horrible and it turned out it was the cable (literally; the jacks were the same on the two cables i compared).
Very possible. Maybe one was defective?

It could be a good cable and just plain luck on my end.
This patch cable talk made me record and compare the no name 25 year old cable and the 150$ evidence, straight into my 4 track. I can definitely work with what I have.

I think I tilt towards the VERY skeptic (read i think its total bull%?&) side of MAGIC voodoo high end cables.

If expensive cables you happy, be my guest and pay 1000$ to wire your pedal board. (Yes, the rhythm guitar player in my old band was totally sucked into that, including a 200 electric cable for his amp. I think magic pixies carried the electric current for better tone...... we all know that better electricity makes better tone right??).

My 2 cents
 
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Very possible. Maybe one was defective?

It could be a good cable and just plain luck on my end.
This patch cable talk made me record and compare the no name 25 year old cable and the 150$ evidence, straight into my 4 track. I can definitely work with what I have.

I think I tilt towards the VERY skeptic (read i think its total bull%?&) side of MAGIC voodoo high end cables.

If expensive cables you happy, be my guest and pay 1000$ to wire your pedal board. (Yes, the rhythm guitar player in my old band was totally sucked into that, including a 200 electric cable for his amp. I think magic pixies carried the electric current for better tone...... we all know that better electricity makes better tone right??).

My 2 cents

tbh, i never gave it much thought until i was recording into something and two tracks were markedly different levels with everything being the same except the cables. when i checked, i realized one was horrible. and did notice that the george l’s stuff sounded better than some of my older stuff.

so yeah, i think it can matter. am i gonna spend $1,000 on a cable? no.
 
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tbh, i never gave it much thought until i was recording into something and two tracks were markedly different levels with everything being the same except the cables. when i checked, i realized one was horrible. and did notice that the george l’s stuff sounded better than some of my older stuff.

so yeah, i think it can matter. am i gonna spend $1,000 on a cable? no.
Agreed.
Crap is crap. Good is Good.

:)
 
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Yeah, but he’s pronouncing it weird.

Seriously. Can't believe none of the dialog coaches who were no doubt required for that movie caught that!


i recall that some of you all use the ebs flat pedal cables.

regular or gold? is anyone willing to take a picture of a the regular plugged in so i can the size of the cable jack the pedal in/output?

Regular. See upper right (FMeron to Matryoshka)
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Got some catching up to do, I'm still on 593, and that page is completely BLONKers!

Hadn't heard Old and New Dreams before, either, and I really like Charlie Haden.


Geeze, Blonk is mesmerising, I want to click through to 594, but I can't. Blonk isn't done yet...


Panning... some stuff seems so obvious, but isn't until it's spelled out to me.


Le Fubar... Tabern... "EH! Surveillez votre langage, bon sang!"


Okay... on to 594...
 
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[edit: Aw crap, I'm replying to stuff from three pages ago! ...which is what, like 10 minutes in Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural time?]

lol. yeah.

with the ct5, you have the ebs stuff going into both jacks? the thing that concerns me about these is the potential tight spacing on the boss 500 series stereo pairs.
 
Another subject, because why not.

I've come to the realization that I pan my mixes way too narrow. I've been watching some tutorials on panning. A lot of people do the left-center-right thing. That seems to work well for conventional music but it sounds like crap with dense synth music. There's so many similar textures, I find it really challenging as to where to put everything (exacerbated by the fact that I usually don't mix that wide). So I'm definitely using the entire stereo field now, and it's a big difference.

So, I started chatting with the awesome Martin Stuertzer again. This guy, in case you don't know:


I think he's a freakin' sonic wizard, in terms of the clarity and spatiality (is that a word?) of his mixes. So, I asked him if he'd do a tutorial, or at least send me some pointers. Figured some of you may find this helpful, if not necessarily new info:

I just recently thought a lot about panning, so it is funny that you ask now! I never gave it much thought but started to experiment a little bit. So far I came up with a few "rules":

- like in "normal" acoustic music the Bass stays in the center
- Parts that I layer from different sounds can be panned a lot. Some synths allow to pan osc1 and osc2 differently, I believe the Idirium can do this as well.
- Sequences can move through the stereo field, I use the Auto Pan in Ableton for it

As usual, I experiment a lot and do what sounds best to me.

You mentioned that you like my mixes (thank you!). Most benefit comes from the way I design my sounds. I try to program sounds in certain frequency ranges and take care that they don´t overlap too much. If two sounds play in the same frequency range I arrange them on the timeline so that they don´t play at the same time. In a track that I am recording right now I use two very heavy and deep bass sounds. They would kill the mix if they played at the same time so I put space between them.


While not quite genius level, and not exactly ambient, I've enjoyed the panning this guy incorporates in his tracks.
 
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Yeah, but he’s pronouncing it weird.
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Seriously. Can't believe none of the dialog coaches who were no doubt required for that movie caught that!...

Or it's scripted, or a choice the actor made to show that the character isn't as sophisticated as he thinks he is...

A lot of page 593 had me thinking of Brecht, Ionesco, Beckett... I absolutely love Theatre of the Absurd, and perhaps the things that draw me to it, drew me to this thread...

Not Theatre of the Absurd, but certainly oft absurd are the plays of Oscar Wilde, another playwright-fave of mine.


not punk

i did a show and tell of the first track of this a while back.

drones, noise, grooves, etc.

faux 808 programming in ableton; hydrasynth keys (the more tonal stuff); hydrasynth desktop with linnstrument (all the quartertone stuff); double bass; ebass with effects and implements/preparations.



Reeeeeally enjoying this. Just can't get enough DB, and it is so oft unused in ambient...




Pacing...
Used to be the Breeder thread was the fastest moving on TB. I'd follow it and participate in it... but time consuming it was. Things change and now the Broughton thread is super fast paced, but I don't participate there as much as I used to with the Breeders thread. Just don't have the time.

I'm dismayed when this thread runs four or five pages long from when I last checked it; it doesn't move as fast as other threads, however, it is just as time consuming as reading the Breeder thread of old or keeping up with the Jonesing for Broughton nowadaze — just as time consuming because of all the LISTENING involved. For example, I'm all caught up on the posts, but still listening to/enjoying Steubig's "Hidden World".
 
Ok, maybe.
But they could have easily made a sort of removable rubber cap to access the solder points.
Permanently sealing them serves IMO zero functional purpose. Except maybe protecting from water damage during a scuba diving gig.

I’m no manufacturing expert, but I’d bet that there’s an issue or two with product failure rates and production costs when making something as “simple” as a small modification to allow user service. Given the number of things they stamp out, it might be a bigger pain to make them serviceable than it’s worth, by the time you scale everything up.
 
I’m no manufacturing expert, but I’d bet that there’s an issue or two with product failure rates and production costs when making something as “simple” as a small modification to allow user service. Given the number of things they stamp out, it might be a bigger pain to make them serviceable than it’s worth, by the time you scale everything up.
Maybe you’re right, but I will never buy any of those cables for the sole reason they go in the garbage once they crap out.

But if they are absolutely what you need and are ok with the fact they can’t be fixed, buy away.
All good with me.
 
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I get the small footprint size issue, but why is the weight of a tiny cable of such « critical » importance?

if you ever fly, the weight limit is basically 50 pounds. heavier cables can add up. i bet that you can shave a few pounds off with lighter cables, which can be the difference between a $25 charge each way and/or having to leave an important piece of gear behind. trust me when i tell you i've amped about being at 49.5 pounds on the bathroom scale and hoping it's not super off from the airlines scale.
 
if you ever fly, the weight limit is basically 50 pounds. heavier cables can add up. i bet that you can shave a few pounds off with lighter cables, which can be the difference between a $25 charge each way and/or having to leave an important piece of gear behind. trust me when i tell you i've amped about being at 49.5 pounds on the bathroom scale and hoping it's not super off from the airlines scale.
I was thinking air travel would be the only logical reason, and you just confirmed my thoughts.
Yes, a pile of cables add weight fast. Last time I went and played in Europe we had to split some stuff amongst all members to make the weight limits. Of course the band princesses tried to pull some fast ones.....(punches wall)
 
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