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Just curious if there is anyone who can chime in if I could recreate this sound with sy1... distortion plus a phased pad : string sound?

(I know the band does some VST for all the synth sounds cos when they play live they just play it with a trigger pad setup thing but Curious if you could get close without using a laptop... )
 
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Spectrum said:
Maybe use an expression pedal to control that filter cutoff to get you close. It also sounds like two or three oscillators detuned to each other to get that phased effect; might run the SY-1 through some kind of modulation to simulate that, thinking flanger maybe. Whatever that is it sounds cool as hell.
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I don’t know WHAT exactly they used but they said they used omnisphere and play trigger pads live with one guitarist whilst the bass and other guitarist are using analogue effects to fill out the rest of the mix... they also have crazy Kemper setups and expensive racks and bits so I know I’m not gonna sound exact!
 
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I could never believe to have so much fun and good time, playing my HB PB50 over a G min drone...amazing!
Next step to add some proper fx (octaver, phaser vintage 90, some delay) .... and just have a nice trip.

By the way, I try to create my own drones, but lately I am using great one found online like this:
 
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Creative pedalboard idea. No glue or adhesive. They have options for adding tiers and tilt.
 
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ollimac73 said:
I could never believe to have so much fun and good time, playing my HB PB50 over a G min drone...amazing!
Next step to add some proper fx (octaver, phaser vintage 90, some delay) .... and just have a nice trip.

By the way, I try to create my own drones, but lately I am using great one found online like this:
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That was enjoyable. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Spectrum said:
Isn't there some rule about releasing/dropping/uploading new stuff on Tuesdays? If so, I just made it East Coast time.

This is all bass guitar and effects. It's a bit long because I liked it and felt like making it long.

The main bass sequence is the Boss SY-1 through the Triode Leviathan filter pedal, which sounds killer. I used an expression pedal to control the filter cutoff. Towards the end of the track there is a second looper pedal with the same sequence recorded on it, slowly drifting out of phase with the main sequence loop. It's kind of subtle but added even more atmosphere. I need to play with this idea some more later.

The synth notes played starting around 2:30 are bass through my old Digitech Bass Synth Wah, which has been getting more love lately. And many of the sound effects are from the Bananana Matryoshka with various other stuff.

I recorded and mixed it with my Tascam digital 8-track so I could manipulate things in stereo, something I struggle to do in a live take. I think it sounds cool in headphones. Enjoy.

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Nailed it. I listened on monitors instead of phones. Might need to circle back.
 
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Bob_Ross said:
Pretty sure I've described my fondness for asynchronous loops elsewhere in this thread. Something about your description of common elements "slowly drifting out of phase" reminded me of Brian Eno's description of a piece he was executing with MIDI sequencing ~30 years ago:

He recorded a keyboard improvisation that lasted, say, 100 measures, into his sequencer. He then split the MIDI file by octaves into separate tracks, so that anything he'd played from C0-B0 was in one MIDI track and anything he'd played from C1-B1 was in another MIDI track etc. And then he truncated the length of each separate MIDI track by one measure each ...and then looped them all at their respective new endpoints.

So now the material in the lowest octave was the full 100-measure length of the original improvisation and when looped would playback as originally performed, but the material in the next highest octave would start looping after 99 bars, and the material in the second highest octave would start looping after 98 bars, etc.

So for the first ~90 bars the music is simply a literal snapshot of what he originally improvised...but then the material culled from different registers starts unravelling, spiraling away from itself as it disintegrates and creates nested loops that are completely asynchronous to -- and yet still directly related to -- their original intent. I love that idea!

Really enjoyed your piece too.
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Do you know which track that was?

Reminds me of the process they used in recording the Dr. Who theme. Apparently after he first heard it the composer asked "did I write that?"
 
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Bob_Ross said:
Pretty sure I've described my fondness for asynchronous loops elsewhere in this thread. Something about your description of common elements "slowly drifting out of phase" reminded me of Brian Eno's description of a piece he was executing with MIDI sequencing ~30 years ago:
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Ugh. I'm currently thinking about things like this. I'm looking at the Erica Black Sequencer, but also the Frap USTA sequencer. I also just noticed the OP-Z has this function. I think I want to stick to the euro rack format, and I already have the Erica rig, so that's my primary candidate. But that USTA is sexy.
 
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Regarding asynchronous things drifting in and out of phase, there is a Fripp piece for two guitars in which one guitar plays something like a 32 8th note sequence while the second guitar plays only the first 31 notes. I'm guessing at the number of notes because I can't even remember the name of the song but it's out there somewhere on youtube I think. The effect it that the whole sequence drifts way out of phase and then comes back in again after 32 measures, and then goes around again. I will do this kind of thing on my synths someday, after I figure out how to write the melody, but in the knowledge that Fripp et al have already done it.
 

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