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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

Damn!!! Awesome!!!
What kind of session??
Studio, rehearsal......?

I almost had a seizure trying out the alternative firmware on the CT5 yesterday.
The light blinks so fast in one of the modes I got dizzy after a few minutes of experiments.

The light blinks at the rate of the vibrato and changes color depending on how many reading heads are activated.
Puke-ta-cu-lar.

improv trio. newer configuration. all the shizz i’ve been working on for the last 17 months came it handy.

let us know how you like the new firmware.
 
25484864[/URL], member: 17475"]improv trio. newer configuration. all the shizz i’ve been working on for the last 17 months came it handy.

let us know how you like the new firmware.
Honestly, still on the fence with the CT5. Still havent created something I like.
User error maybe???

Its a very picky and frustrating process, add to that it doesnt keep the buffer mode thing on once the power supply is unplugged.
The Nightly firmware has alot of sub function used wuth the Q switch. I think I was up to late and my brain was mush. It was a bit too much info at once.

effin eh, happy you're finally out creating
 
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Hello Matrix Mixer with MIDI
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Its a very picky and frustrating process, add to that it doesnt keep the buffer mode thing on once the power supply is unplugged.
The Nightly firmware has alot of sub function used wuth the Q switch. I think I was up to late and my brain was mush. It was a bit too much info at once.

A musical collaborator and I have been having an ongoing conversation recently about what we see as a trending development in the stompbox industry -- especially amongst the small scale "boutique" stompbox builders -- and ^^^that aspect of the Count To 5 is perfectly emblematic of this issue:

Way too many of these pedals are struggling to cram multiple functions into a limited number of user interface controls, just so the form factor still resembles what we commonly think of as a "stompbox".

e.g., a Count To 5 would be so much easier to navigate if every control didn't do triple duty (but then it would have 3x as many knobs and so wouldn't fit in the same footprint as a BOSS pedal), or if instead of having inscrutable 4-character engraved labels for every (multi-function) control it had an LED so the name could change with the function (but then it would require an onboard microprocessor, and possibly a larger power supply, and before you know it you're staring at an Eventide H9 or a ZOIA etc.)

...and we concluded that it is the culture of stompbox afficianados that encourages these compromises [sic] in UI and form-factor. A Count To 5 is an awesomely powerful gizmo in spite of its often frustrating UI ...but if Montreal Assembly built a more user-friendly (or more feedback-enabled) CT5 it would appeal to an entirely different type of musician. Just because it would no longer be the size/form factor of a stompbox.
 
A musical collaborator and I have been having an ongoing conversation recently about what we see as a trending development in the stompbox industry -- especially amongst the small scale "boutique" stompbox builders -- and ^^^that aspect of the Count To 5 is perfectly emblematic of this issue:

Way too many of these pedals are struggling to cram multiple functions into a limited number of user interface controls, just so the form factor still resembles what we commonly think of as a "stompbox".

e.g., a Count To 5 would be so much easier to navigate if every control didn't do triple duty (but then it would have 3x as many knobs and so wouldn't fit in the same footprint as a BOSS pedal), or if instead of having inscrutable 4-character engraved labels for every (multi-function) control it had an LED so the name could change with the function (but then it would require an onboard microprocessor, and possibly a larger power supply, and before you know it you're staring at an Eventide H9 or a ZOIA etc.)

...and we concluded that it is the culture of stompbox afficianados that encourages these compromises [sic] in UI and form-factor. A Count To 5 is an awesomely powerful gizmo in spite of its often frustrating UI ...but if Montreal Assembly built a more user-friendly (or more feedback-enabled) CT5 it would appeal to an entirely different type of musician. Just because it would no longer be the size/form factor of a stompbox.
We can soooo hang
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Honestly, still on the fence with the CT5. Still havent created something I like.
User error maybe???

Its a very picky and frustrating process, add to that it doesnt keep the buffer mode thing on once the power supply is unplugged.
The Nightly firmware has alot of sub function used wuth the Q switch. I think I was up to late and my brain was mush. It was a bit too much info at once.

effin eh, happy you're finally out creating

A musical collaborator and I have been having an ongoing conversation recently about what we see as a trending development in the stompbox industry -- especially amongst the small scale "boutique" stompbox builders -- and ^^^that aspect of the Count To 5 is perfectly emblematic of this issue:

Way too many of these pedals are struggling to cram multiple functions into a limited number of user interface controls, just so the form factor still resembles what we commonly think of as a "stompbox".

e.g., a Count To 5 would be so much easier to navigate if every control didn't do triple duty (but then it would have 3x as many knobs and so wouldn't fit in the same footprint as a BOSS pedal), or if instead of having inscrutable 4-character engraved labels for every (multi-function) control it had an LED so the name could change with the function (but then it would require an onboard microprocessor, and possibly a larger power supply, and before you know it you're staring at an Eventide H9 or a ZOIA etc.)

...and we concluded that it is the culture of stompbox afficianados that encourages these compromises [sic] in UI and form-factor. A Count To 5 is an awesomely powerful gizmo in spite of its often frustrating UI ...but if Montreal Assembly built a more user-friendly (or more feedback-enabled) CT5 it would appeal to an entirely different type of musician. Just because it would no longer be the size/form factor of a stompbox.

I will say that personally I enjoy that the CT5 is not fine-tuned for easy and precise tweaking with one knob per function, etc. I always perceived Montreal Assembly as a little more avant-garde in design than other, more utilitarian builders, and enjoy that the difficulty in quickly accessing every function on the CT5 tends to inspire me more to play _with_ the pedal rather than get it to do what I want it to do. Comparing it to the Tensor, which is distinctly more utilitarian, made me notice this. Personally I would probably struggle with the Tensor, but the bizarre abbreviations on the knobs and the secondary functions with the switches of the CT5 make it more of an exploratory and mysterious experience than approaching it as a tool.

I say all this with the disclaimer that I have not played with people in a long time, and music for me aside from woodshopping is improvisation just to relax and turn my mind off. I genuinely have a hard time seeing how the CT5 would function for most working musicians needs, my first thought when I got it was "wow this is perfect for my needs, I can't imagine what someone trying to get something more serious out of this would be". So maybe I'm part of the stompbox culture problem :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: sowwy!

I haven't looked deeply into it, but the 856 for Zellerasn seemed to me like a significantly more developed CT5 that is closer to what Bob_Ross was implying, how it would be less like a stompbox and more like a desktop unit.

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i probably don’t use 85% (guessing cause i don’t know what i’m missing!) of the ct5.

what i do use of it is kind of integral to a part of my process, which is mini-looper with some mangling functions that i put before other manglers and loopers.

so loop stuff, eff it up and then loop that. i find the transcendence feature particularly useful.

i never use it for any of its wacky delay functions.
 
i probably don’t use 85% (guessing cause i don’t know what i’m missing!) of the ct5.

what i do use of it is kind of integral to a part of my process, which is mini-looper with some mangling functions that i put before other manglers and loopers.

so loop stuff, eff it up and then loop that. i find the transcendence feature particularly useful.

i never use it for any of its wacky delay functions.

That sounds like how I use the Blooper. I’ve never used the CT5 but it’s interface looks very confusing to me.
 
i probably don’t use 85% (guessing cause i don’t know what i’m missing!) of the ct5.

what i do use of it is kind of integral to a part of my process, which is mini-looper with some mangling functions that i put before other manglers and loopers.

so loop stuff, eff it up and then loop that. i find the transcendence feature particularly useful.

i never use it for any of its wacky delay functions.
A single ditto looper still kicks my ass.
Imagine the CT5.
The fail is strong in this one.

@Bob_Ross
The alternate firmware has 2 modes that doesn't need an internal loop on the ct5.
You should check it out. Since I remember you saying you didn't use the mini looper much.
But put some tape on the LED when testing out mode 3 of the Nightly firmware.
You have been warned.
;)
 
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LOL! And I was just telling @ugly_bassplayer yesterday that I rarely use the CT5 for anything but its wacky delay functions!

therein lies the "magic."

That sounds like how I use the Blooper. I’ve never used the CT5 but it’s interface looks very confusing to me.

it's not super-intuitive. (hence me settling on a specific thing i do with it.)
 
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the ct5 is pretty simple as a looper. hit record, mess with speed/pitch/direction (one knob!), length and stutter. more "feeling" than "knowing," imo.
File this under.....PIBTB.
(Problem is behind the bass)
I think I should feed it more wacky & weird stuff.
Had some cool stuff going using a looper pre and post ct5 with a delay.
Time to go even further down the weirdo hole i guess, as usual.
 
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