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Damn, that takes me back to 1995.
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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread
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Damn, that takes me back to 1995.
Hits:
Woodshedding
Screeching feedback
Drywall
Misses:
Pedals with more than 4 knobs
Acid bass
DAWs
/ugly
Woodshedding
Screeching feedback
Drywall
Misses:
Pedals with more than 4 knobs
Acid bass
DAWs
/ugly
As I recently divulged in another thread, I only bought one pedal — and in fact, that’s the only piece of musical equipment — in all of 2021.
Fortunately, it’s a Hit: the Chase Bliss Audio Blooper.
(I did just buy a new apartment, and that’s a hit so far…)
Fortunately, it’s a Hit: the Chase Bliss Audio Blooper.
(I did just buy a new apartment, and that’s a hit so far…)
/ugly?? I'm a "miss". Hey , why not.....Hits:
Woodshedding
Screeching feedback
Drywall
Misses:
Pedals with more than 4 knobs
Acid bass
DAWs
/ugly
Surprisingly, I didn't buy as much gear, this year. Actually had to think about it.
Hits: Mub Miezo 18, Temple Audio Trio Pedalboard, Phil Jones Double 4
Miss: those two crappy Mooer pedals, I'm now not convinced there's any other kind of Mooer pedal.
Jury out: Empress Zoia
I think most of the other stuff I bought were accessories and such.
Hits: Mub Miezo 18, Temple Audio Trio Pedalboard, Phil Jones Double 4
Miss: those two crappy Mooer pedals, I'm now not convinced there's any other kind of Mooer pedal.
Jury out: Empress Zoia
I think most of the other stuff I bought were accessories and such.
/ugly?? I'm a "miss". Hey , why not.....
You're hit, don't worry.
Nah, all good. I can take a good joke at my expense.
Self deprecation FTW!!!!
Hits:
The biggest hit was getting a new band together that embraces all the power of pedaldom and the bass. Though we are playing original songs that are really quite normal from a folk/rock writing standpoint, i.e. singing verses, chorus, etc. the trio's influences span a wide range of genres - the collective resume of the group includes Americana, accordion & banjo horror folk, ska, metal, bluegrass, synth rock, etc.
Guitar player really excels and often prefers more melodic parts than strumming chords giving me a really nice freedom to play pretty intricate bass parts that take the place of what otherwise might be a rhythm guitar.
In all, my wife described some of the first songs as "Sufjan Stevens writing for Primus or NIN."
Empress Zoia - Bringing all my ideas from Eurorack modular onto the pedalboard? Hell yes.
Boss SY-200
Source Audio Ultrawave - though I didn't bond with the c4, noted below, I did with the Ultrawave. Having six presets on board works for me with this for the iterative process. A good overdrive, fuzz, compressor and distortion fill a lot of roles. Then I have two of my favorite weird ones on the last two.
Misses:
Source Audio C4. Very cool and capable pedal but it is too complex for me to have so few onboard controls. I feel like one of these in their double wide format would be a different story for me. I basically want a different synth sound for every part of a song I am going to use one for. It disrupts the creative flow to have to hook up to a computer.
WMD Protostar. The one thing that doesn't wow me on the SY-200, which was true with the -300 as well, is the filter. I'm admittedly pretty damn particular about filters. This filter sounds great. Being able to control it with the Zoia via cv was great.
But when I added the Ultrawave, I ran out of power and had to upgrade to a new Voodoo Labs power supply. I thought my old one was quite, but this new one is nearly silent. That's when the subtle clock noise started bothering me from the Protostar. I also had to upgrade some single coils which hadn't bothered me before. Yes, I'm that guy.
Jury is out but it’s looking good:
Moog Minifooger Drive. Given the noise on the Protostar above, I pulled out the old Moog and am using it as a filter with the Sy-200 and Zoia. So far so good. I do keep thinking about something with more options, but it sounds soooo good (and is quiet)
Jury is out:
I Warmoth'd a Fender Jazz bass because I never liked the Fender necks. The bass is awesome in every objective way. And I told myself this was a good idea because I never had a mellow bass. But I keep just playing my Warwicks and Reverends and just roll the tone off and play near the neck for mellow. Objectively, it sounds different. Subjectively, I can't be bothered to change my old fuller frequency bass habits.
The biggest hit was getting a new band together that embraces all the power of pedaldom and the bass. Though we are playing original songs that are really quite normal from a folk/rock writing standpoint, i.e. singing verses, chorus, etc. the trio's influences span a wide range of genres - the collective resume of the group includes Americana, accordion & banjo horror folk, ska, metal, bluegrass, synth rock, etc.
Guitar player really excels and often prefers more melodic parts than strumming chords giving me a really nice freedom to play pretty intricate bass parts that take the place of what otherwise might be a rhythm guitar.
In all, my wife described some of the first songs as "Sufjan Stevens writing for Primus or NIN."
Empress Zoia - Bringing all my ideas from Eurorack modular onto the pedalboard? Hell yes.
Boss SY-200
Source Audio Ultrawave - though I didn't bond with the c4, noted below, I did with the Ultrawave. Having six presets on board works for me with this for the iterative process. A good overdrive, fuzz, compressor and distortion fill a lot of roles. Then I have two of my favorite weird ones on the last two.
Misses:
Source Audio C4. Very cool and capable pedal but it is too complex for me to have so few onboard controls. I feel like one of these in their double wide format would be a different story for me. I basically want a different synth sound for every part of a song I am going to use one for. It disrupts the creative flow to have to hook up to a computer.
WMD Protostar. The one thing that doesn't wow me on the SY-200, which was true with the -300 as well, is the filter. I'm admittedly pretty damn particular about filters. This filter sounds great. Being able to control it with the Zoia via cv was great.
But when I added the Ultrawave, I ran out of power and had to upgrade to a new Voodoo Labs power supply. I thought my old one was quite, but this new one is nearly silent. That's when the subtle clock noise started bothering me from the Protostar. I also had to upgrade some single coils which hadn't bothered me before. Yes, I'm that guy.
Jury is out but it’s looking good:
Moog Minifooger Drive. Given the noise on the Protostar above, I pulled out the old Moog and am using it as a filter with the Sy-200 and Zoia. So far so good. I do keep thinking about something with more options, but it sounds soooo good (and is quiet)
Jury is out:
I Warmoth'd a Fender Jazz bass because I never liked the Fender necks. The bass is awesome in every objective way. And I told myself this was a good idea because I never had a mellow bass. But I keep just playing my Warwicks and Reverends and just roll the tone off and play near the neck for mellow. Objectively, it sounds different. Subjectively, I can't be bothered to change my old fuller frequency bass habits.
/ugly?? I'm a "miss". Hey , why not.....
That was my best ugly impression. I really just wanted to make a hit+drywall joke, but I got carried away
let me preface this by saying that i basically stopped spending money in december 2019, as i had a bad feeling about the economy. so 2020 was pretty much buying nothing.
2021, well that's a different story . . . between selling a bunch of stuff and inheriting some money from my mom, i may have gotten a little out of hand.
sort of a miss, but almost a hit: roland mc-707. too many menu windows for this luddite—and not part of my basic sound world/workflow right now. (same ended up being true of the boss 500 series, which is great, but too program-y in a live situation for me.) my drum machine entre was the 808, so i like knobs. anyway, most likely going to sell it.
hits:
waldorf iridium: great synth design, not too menu-y. amazing sound.
red panda pedals: easy to use live—knobs are good for me. good architecture. good sound. so far i've bonded with their aesthetic/work flow.
make noise semi-modular and modular stuff: major addiction in two easy steps. so far i've bonded with their aesthetic/work flow/sound. enjoying not knowing what i'm doing and trying to create something from that.
maybe that bottle of bulleit had something to do with my judgement.
a year from now, who knows? i might hate all this stuff.
2021, well that's a different story . . . between selling a bunch of stuff and inheriting some money from my mom, i may have gotten a little out of hand.
sort of a miss, but almost a hit: roland mc-707. too many menu windows for this luddite—and not part of my basic sound world/workflow right now. (same ended up being true of the boss 500 series, which is great, but too program-y in a live situation for me.) my drum machine entre was the 808, so i like knobs. anyway, most likely going to sell it.
hits:
waldorf iridium: great synth design, not too menu-y. amazing sound.
red panda pedals: easy to use live—knobs are good for me. good architecture. good sound. so far i've bonded with their aesthetic/work flow.
make noise semi-modular and modular stuff: major addiction in two easy steps. so far i've bonded with their aesthetic/work flow/sound. enjoying not knowing what i'm doing and trying to create something from that.
maybe that bottle of bulleit had something to do with my judgement.
a year from now, who knows? i might hate all this stuff.
Red Panda rules. I love your new setup.let me preface this by saying that i basically stopped spending money in december 2019, as i had a bad feeling about the economy. so 2020 was pretty much buying nothing.
2021, well that's a different story . . . between selling a bunch of stuff and inheriting some money from my mom, i may have gotten a little out of hand.
sort of a miss, but almost a hit: roland mc-707. too many menu windows for this luddite—and not part of my basic sound world/workflow right now. (same ended up being true of the boss 500 series, which is great, but too program-y in a live situation for me.) my drum machine entre was the 808, so i like knobs. anyway, most likely going to sell it.
hits:
waldorf iridium: great synth design, not too menu-y. amazing sound.
red panda pedals: easy to use live—knobs are good for me. good architecture. good sound. so far i've bonded with their aesthetic/work flow.
make noise semi-modular and modular stuff: major addiction in two easy steps. so far i've bonded with their aesthetic/work flow/sound. enjoying not knowing what i'm doing and trying to create something from that.
maybe that bottle of bulleit had something to do with my judgement.
a year from now, who knows? i might hate all this stuff.
I spent more money in 2020 tbh, hoping I'd be back to some business in 2021 (nope).....now I'm running out of money (paid to make a new studio record this year...so that contributed), need to move, and need a job....come on 2022!
This year....
Hits:
-found a second of my favorite dirt pedal that isn't made (not this version) any longer....really glad to have another...Electronic Audio Experiments Longsword v2
-I recently bought an Electronic Audio Experiments Hypersleep v2 reverb pedal....it was expensive, and I fully expected to try it, not love it, and move it on to get my money back......but it's amazing, and it's more than likely the last time it'll ever be made. The old chip that it uses seems to be pretty much gone.
So/so:
-I got a new fretless bass this year, and there was a mixup in the details....so it'll eventually be what it should be, but until then it's mostly a gorgeous looking art piece.
Swing and a miss:
-I've tried a few different tube preamps, and although they were all cool, I seem to always go back to solid state amps that sound really good, and are small and easy to get around with. I prefer as much dynamic range as possible, and unless you have a big, heavy tube head...the smaller tube pres just don't have the dynamic range. Highlights were an old Demeter preamp, and a Khan tube DI....but they still didn't work out. I love the idea of them (low end weight, and rounder notes higher up in the bass' range), but I haven't found the right one, yet.
This year....
Hits:
-found a second of my favorite dirt pedal that isn't made (not this version) any longer....really glad to have another...Electronic Audio Experiments Longsword v2
-I recently bought an Electronic Audio Experiments Hypersleep v2 reverb pedal....it was expensive, and I fully expected to try it, not love it, and move it on to get my money back......but it's amazing, and it's more than likely the last time it'll ever be made. The old chip that it uses seems to be pretty much gone.
So/so:
-I got a new fretless bass this year, and there was a mixup in the details....so it'll eventually be what it should be, but until then it's mostly a gorgeous looking art piece.
Swing and a miss:
-I've tried a few different tube preamps, and although they were all cool, I seem to always go back to solid state amps that sound really good, and are small and easy to get around with. I prefer as much dynamic range as possible, and unless you have a big, heavy tube head...the smaller tube pres just don't have the dynamic range. Highlights were an old Demeter preamp, and a Khan tube DI....but they still didn't work out. I love the idea of them (low end weight, and rounder notes higher up in the bass' range), but I haven't found the right one, yet.
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Can you elaborate on this? I've been window shopping tube preamps so I'm curious to hear more about this.
Tubes compress....that's what they do. For recording that can be incredibly beneficial, but playing live that isn't what I prefer......unless I can get an older amp that has a traditional power section with lots of weight behind it.....but with my small class d amp, having a tube before it doesn't seem to really work for me. I've tried many times now with mixed results.
First and foremost the Alembic F2B/F1X, but also looking into smaller pres that will get me the same sound (or close enough). But I'm also still just shopping around so I'm trying to keep an open mind and not restrict myself to only Alembic and its clones.
I had a Demeter VTBP M 800D and there was some "tube" feel (warmth/compression) to it but not an exaggerated way. I loved that amp and the related pre would be worth a look for a clean/flat/neutral pre. I have a Night Owl Edison and that seems to have a "compressing" effect. The deep lows decrease and the mids get a bit more present. It doesn't feel like an EQ thing, so I attribute it to the compression character of the tube used. I tried a Nobel, and it was nice, but I didn't keep it. I had a Monique, which just didn't fit with the bass/dirt/cab I had at the time. Feel free to ask about any of those.
I generally don't buy into the use of tube pre designs, which are often used as marketing tools. I think good solid state designs can work quite well. It always depends on the design, the application, and the user's expectations.
