Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

[monsterthompson]

Oh man.

 

[dukeorock]

Well. I’m hoping it’s a winner. I already coughed up the dough. I really liked the concept and the quality of what Empress has built so far.

I have zero doubt it will sound fantastic!

 

[dukeorock]

Oh man.

Whoa

 

[vivaknoxvegas]

Oh man.

Want.

 

[steubig]

seems cool.

serious question: what does that get you that discrete fuzz, reverb and delay pedals don't get you? what happens when you hate the fuzz or can't eq it and would like to change it? is the signal routing locked in stone? is the delay time enough?

not trying to dump on these guys, but this is how i think through something like this: how would i use it, is it flexible, and would it fit my work flow or long-term needs?

 

[dukeorock]

seems cool.

serious question: what does that get you that discrete fuzz, reverb and delay pedals don't get you? what happens when you hate the fuzz or can't eq it and would like to change it? is the signal routing locked in stone? is the delay time enough?

not trying to dump on these guys, but this is how i think through something like this: how would i use it, is it flexible, and would it fit my work flow or long-term needs?

Fair point

Saw another Zoia video

 

[theunknowndude]

seems cool.

serious question: what does that get you that discrete fuzz, reverb and delay pedals don't get you? what happens when you hate the fuzz or can't eq it and would like to change it? is the signal routing locked in stone? is the delay time enough?

not trying to dump on these guys, but this is how i think through something like this: how would i use it, is it flexible, and would it fit my work flow or long-term needs?

Yep I hear ya... that’s why I got rid of my bf3 and am going back to using a flanger with my tremolo after.. if I want the slicer type effect with flanger I can do so and also turn off either one without having to bend down or edit anything.

 

[cosmicevan]

Oh man.

knobs vids are fun to watch but they dont really show off a pedal that great. that thing looks gnarly though

 

[monsterthompson]

4003 > Night Owl Edison > Wizard > Transmutron >Thicken > Echo > Reverb > Phone so you can’t hear how it really sounds

 

[monsterthompson]

seems cool.

serious question: what does that get you that discrete fuzz, reverb and delay pedals don't get you? what happens when you hate the fuzz or can't eq it and would like to change it? is the signal routing locked in stone? is the delay time enough?

not trying to dump on these guys, but this is how i think through something like this: how would i use it, is it flexible, and would it fit my work flow or long-term needs?

Yeah. I was thinking I like a cab sim after my fuzz but before my delay and verb. Not sure how you do that here. I guess you just accept the limitations of the device’s signal flow.

 

[dukeorock]

knobs vids are fun to watch but they dont really show off a pedal that great. that thing looks gnarly though

Not sure I agree. That Knobs dude goes out of his way to use guitars, synths, samplers, drum machines, etc., to show a wide range of possibilities. He’s one of my favorite YouTube folks.

Yeah. I was thinking I like a cab sim after my fuzz but before my delay and verb. Not sure how you do that here. I guess you just accept the limitations of the device’s signal flow.

Agreed 100% with that last sentence

 

[steubig]

yes. love knobs.

limitations: yep. until they make a mind melding pedal, it’s gonna be that way. but, for me, that pedal has a number of potential issues.

my question was really sort of idle curiosity.

 

[dukeorock]

yes. love knobs.

limitations: yep. until they make a mind melding pedal, it’s gonna be that way. but, for me, that pedal has a number of potential issues.

my question was really sort of idle curiosity.

I was in the same boat. I’ve bought and sold more dirt boxes than I care to count. I’m also suspicious of pedals and stuff in general, that try to be too many things at once. I’d prefer a piece of gear that does one thing incredibly well, then stack it with something else that does one thing incredibly well

 

[monsterthompson]

Another fuzz/reverb.
The demos cover a variety of instruments.

 

[cosmicevan]

the music always sounds so similar in the knobs videos to me. I like demos that really show functionality as opposed to making the same general vibe. All the knobs videos are those slow broken cords. I do enjoy the videos though.

 

[dukeorock]

My beloved 0Coast is gone now. Mostly because it was never actually mine a buddy got frustrated with it and loaned it to me for quite a long time, but today he asked for it back. Funny that he felt guilty about it because dropped off a Moog Minitaur for me to try out. Hopefully, he’ll get frustrated by the 0Coast again soon and trade back with me!

 

[monsterthompson]

the music always sounds so similar in the knobs videos to me. I like demos that really show functionality as opposed to making the same general vibe. All the knobs videos are those slow broken cords. I do enjoy the videos though.

Yeah. The quirky playing always throws me. It makes it hard to reference things. It’s like Patrick Hunter or Mr. Excane demos where the guy’s baked in tone makes it hard to hear the gear’s sound. Zach Rizer generally plays it pretty accurate to my ears, as does Pro Guitar Shop with Andy.

 

[monsterthompson]

Gotta say, the more I watched this video, the less I wanted the pedal. Gonna wait to see if something about it clicks with me or not

This video makes it look pretty easy. It does hint at a few things that make me think programming it might have some minor pitfalls which are really learning opportunities. I’m thinking there are things like phase issues when running parallel signals through different chains taking different processing times (Cuckoo’s video illustrated that), or that there are little devil-in-the-details things to discover in the signal patching. Still, this video got me excited about diving in.

 

[Feral Feline]

My beloved 0Coast is gone now. Mostly because it was never actually mine a buddy got frustrated with it and loaned it to me for quite a long time, but today he asked for it back. Funny that he felt guilty about it because dropped off a Moog Minitaur for me to try out. Hopefully, he’ll get frustrated by the 0Coast again soon and trade back with me!

Any friend of yours should be a friend of mine...

 

[Real Soon]

I'm not an ambient music creator or band member at the moment, but it's something that I've always enjoyed playing around with, and when I got my mitts on a 7-string bass a while back, that kicked up a notch or two.

Recently, I finally acquired a highly immersive and flexible reverb, the Meris Mercury 7. ...and NOW. Now I could see myself firing up some next-level soundscapes. I'm settling on a couple more pedalboard decisions as well, but will post an arsenal photo soon. Something I need to grab is a small mixer, which could let the Meris treat bass & synths equally... and with an Alesis Micron & Korg Minilogue, I've got enough instrumentation on hand to get started at least. The Micron's got respectable drums among other things, so that'll be fun.