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Ambient/Post-Rock/Textural bass playing thread

Also, has this been posted here? Seems relevant to our interests.

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@lordradish you smell correctly.

@steubig surprisingly, no!

I can send more of a report after, but here is the program: Link Removed I try and keep this thread and work separate, but this is a special occasion. There is a high ratio of gear to people. Yesterday I finally got to try out a Lyra 8, Syntrx, another Synthi clone, and a bunch of other stuff. Today I hope to play a replica Buchla 200 system. There were performances last night, including a guy running a rig with an original 70s synthi, a BEMI music easel, using Live as a mixer (and a tuner—brilliant!) and the other guy in the duo was playing some Ciat-Lombarde stuff (sp?) and an Analog Keys into a Cosmos. You can touch everything (they call it the “petting zoo.”

The talks are good too but you’re not here for that
 
@lordradish you smell correctly.

@steubig surprisingly, no!

I can send more of a report after, but here is the program: Link Removed I try and keep this thread and work separate, but this is a special occasion. There is a high ratio of gear to people. Yesterday I finally got to try out a Lyra 8, Syntrx, another Synthi clone, and a bunch of other stuff. Today I hope to play a replica Buchla 200 system. There were performances last night, including a guy running a rig with an original 70s synthi, a BEMI music easel, using Live as a mixer (and a tuner—brilliant!) and the other guy in the duo was playing some Ciat-Lombarde stuff (sp?) and an Analog Keys into a Cosmos. You can touch everything (they call it the “petting zoo.”

The talks are good too but you’re not here for that

okay!

it might be early for me when reading this, but those topics made my head hurt.
 
it might be early for me when reading this, but those topics made my head hurt.

I’m guessing you would have at least liked the artist talks. I’ve enjoyed the engineers and academics, and actually talking with people who build these things has been fascinating. They’re basically modern artisans or luthiers, or IDK. Also, laying hands on Buchla, Serge and Synthi has been eye-opening to say the very least.

The one that was basically a startup pitch to VCs was painful to sit through, probably for everyone.

This may or may not be funny to anyone else, but Paper Noise, who does the panels for a lot of modules, did a presentation and then ran a little design workshop. We get a brief to try and figure out a panel layout. We did not really get past the tuning knob.
 
And with this (top and fingerboard), there is nothing left to decide, other than to not think about it for a year, as it will drive me nuts as it did with the last one. I'm glad I had the money for the returned one ready to go... this one's gonna prob cost about 3.5k, but I think I have enough time to come up with the remainder, barring any catastrophes.
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One change, though, went from the Audere Pre to the Nordy JC-3B preamp, the one optimized for the Nordy Big Blademan/Wal tone. It was designed for Justin Chancellor. Although I don't play like him or even play heavy stuff or even own a Tool album (yeah, I'm that uncool, but y'all knew that), he plays a Wal and that's what I'm thinking- I watched Carey Nordstrand's demo video and I was sold on that whole setup as soon as I heard it. It's more in the ballpark of what I want than anything else I've heard. It also has a trim pot inside so you can level the volume of your passive and active tone. Bonus perk. Here's the blurb:

JC-3b - PREWIRED - 3 band bass preamp with volume (pull passive), blend, treble (push/pull neck pickup - series down, parallel up), mids (1kHz down, pull up for 400Hz), bass (push/pull bridge pickup - series down, parallel up)

*The JC-3b preamp is specifically configured to work with the Dual Big BladeMan pickups in a manner that brings out the edgy penetrating mids and high end character so widely recognized as essential to Justin’s iconic tone. We use a 500k volume pot and the common side of the blend pot is left ungrounded. Also, we have trim pots mounted for each pickups that allow one to balance (turn down) the series output to the parallel output. With all of these tweaks, the JC 3 band preamp, when combined with the Dual Big BladeMan pickups provides a rarefied degree of versatility, delivering everything from the mid forward grindy presence of classic JC tone to a super fat, wide, and deep modern sound with loads of punch."

I know it's not gonna sound like a Wal, but it'll be a lot closer than if I went with the P/J I had on the one I sent back. It's more about having some similarities in tone across my basses. Yeah, a EBMM SR doesn't sound like a Wal, either, but it's much closer sonically than a lot of other basses I could choose. I really like the punchy, modern tone. The Big Blademan is essentially 2 J-Blades, so I'm gonna get the coil tap too, in case I wanna dial things back a bit.

And it's gonna sound killer playing fretless with an e-bow through the big board.
 
And with this (top and fingerboard), there is nothing left to decide, other than to not think about it for a year, as it will drive me nuts as it did with the last one. I'm glad I had the money for the returned one ready to go... this one's gonna prob cost about 3.5k, but I think I have enough time to come up with the remainder, barring any catastrophes.
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One change, though, went from the Audere Pre to the Nordy JC-3B preamp, the one optimized for the Nordy Big Blademan/Wal tone. It was designed for Justin Chancellor. Although I don't play like him or even play heavy stuff or even own a Tool album (yeah, I'm that uncool, but y'all knew that), he plays a Wal and that's what I'm thinking- I watched Carey Nordstrand's demo video and I was sold on that whole setup as soon as I heard it. It's more in the ballpark of what I want than anything else I've heard. It also has a trim pot inside so you can level the volume of your passive and active tone. Bonus perk. Here's the blurb:

JC-3b - PREWIRED - 3 band bass preamp with volume (pull passive), blend, treble (push/pull neck pickup - series down, parallel up), mids (1kHz down, pull up for 400Hz), bass (push/pull bridge pickup - series down, parallel up)

*The JC-3b preamp is specifically configured to work with the Dual Big BladeMan pickups in a manner that brings out the edgy penetrating mids and high end character so widely recognized as essential to Justin’s iconic tone. We use a 500k volume pot and the common side of the blend pot is left ungrounded. Also, we have trim pots mounted for each pickups that allow one to balance (turn down) the series output to the parallel output. With all of these tweaks, the JC 3 band preamp, when combined with the Dual Big BladeMan pickups provides a rarefied degree of versatility, delivering everything from the mid forward grindy presence of classic JC tone to a super fat, wide, and deep modern sound with loads of punch."

I know it's not gonna sound like a Wal, but it'll be a lot closer than if I went with the P/J I had on the one I sent back. It's more about having some similarities in tone across my basses. Yeah, a EBMM SR doesn't sound like a Wal, either, but it's much closer sonically than a lot of other basses I could choose. I really like the punchy, modern tone. The Big Blademan is essentially 2 J-Blades, so I'm gonna get the coil tap too, in case I wanna dial things back a bit.

And it's gonna sound killer playing fretless with an e-bow through the big board.

looking forward to the day that you announce that you’re ordering its fretted twin.

:D
 
I’m guessing you would have at least liked the artist talks. I’ve enjoyed the engineers and academics, and actually talking with people who build these things has been fascinating. They’re basically modern artisans or luthiers, or IDK. Also, laying hands on Buchla, Serge and Synthi has been eye-opening to say the very least.

The one that was basically a startup pitch to VCs was painful to sit through, probably for everyone.

This may or may not be funny to anyone else, but Paper Noise, who does the panels for a lot of modules, did a presentation and then ran a little design workshop. We get a brief to try and figure out a panel layout. We did not really get past the tuning knob.

some people seem interesting in it. the titles are the things that drive me crazy.

a friend of mine did an interview with one of the folks there, if you’re interested. made me want to look up his instrument, the wing pinger.

Article: An Interview with Meng Qi | Cycling '74
 
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I had an hour on the Buchla this morning which was super fun. The interface design was great but I am not certain I am in love with using different cables for audio and CV. That requires a level of organizational skill that I do not have. I loved playing it, but I think with both Buchla and Serge, you can get a lot of that sound and functionality out of modern Eurorack. The difference of course is the interface.

I was very impressed with the following things:

Everyone gigs with a mixer in addition to the venue’s mixer.

4U makes a big difference over 3U—my middle aged eyes and fat bassist fingers really could tell the difference. Also cohesive modular systems have a lot going for them.

The Wingie V2 (already emailed to order): 孟奇 Meng Qi

The Lyra 8 was a ton of fun to play and quite satisfying. Someone told me the Enner is even more fun. Not sure if I’ll get either.

A replica of a quadraphonic system performance panning system made for David Tudor, and that was probably used like twice in its lifetime (I really want to play a gig in quad now): Any one wanna clone this bad boy? - MOD WIGGLER

The sound of the Serge VCFQ—just wow.

A prototype sequencer that comes with 4 tiny whammy bars—I want the whammy bar only version, which might happen, but probably not before 2024.

The Rossum Assimil8tor, which does some tricks my Octatrack only dreams of.
 
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looking forward to the day that you announce that you’re ordering its fretted twin.

:D
You so funny.

I've taken a bit of a significant income loss due to some structural changes at the colleges, so that's very unlikely. Yeah, things could always change, but I think this is going to be my last major purchase for a very long time. I had a few years where things were really flying high with work, and I'm very fortunate to have been able to really GAS it out these last few years, more basses, more synths. But I think those days are over. I don't even look at pedals right now.

Although I could possibly see swapping out the Nordy Dual Coils in the fretted Bordwell with some more Blademans (or is it men?).
 
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some people seem interesting in it. the titles are the things that drive me crazy.

a friend of mine did an interview with one of the folks there, if you’re interested. made me want to look up his instrument, the wing pinger.

Article: An Interview with Meng Qi | Cycling '74

it’s just a genre. Academia is the prog of writing. Meng Qi was great and had a great line about how as he added control in one area as an instrument maker he would take away control in another.