If you're on a hollow boomy stage a stand could help focus the bass instead of vibrating the entire floor and sounding muddy, every stage is different. Like the others suggested, walk around with your bass and hear how the sound is projecting.
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Amp on stand?
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It was a joke my friend haha. I just want to make sure he's being heard because some guitar players keep their bassists real quiet.
Before I started using in-ears, I used a workbench from Home Depot to get my cab near my ears.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/202021...toreId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=202021304#.UWIix5OVOZw
It's proven to be quite useful even outside of gigs.
Hey, this is pretty cool! Thanks. I'll check it out!
+1
Also, raising your cabinet generally puts it closer to your ears, so you can turn down and still be able to hear yourself well.
And with good reason, too. A lot of bassists have zero clue about how loud they are. Sure, all instruments do it sometimes, but bass players especially due to its function in most bands and the fact that a lot of bass players point their cabs at their knee-ears, which turn out to be non-functional.
Before I started using in-ears, I used a workbench from Home Depot to get my cab near my ears.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/202021...toreId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=202021304#.UWIix5OVOZw
It's proven to be quite useful even outside of gigs.
Wow. This looks tremendous! Thanks for the post.
Wow. This looks tremendous! Thanks for the post.
I went and bought one of these same stands at Lowes' after reading about it here. I've never used it for gigs yet mainly cause the stand is as big or bigger than my small cabs, takes too much room on stage and sits my cab way too high for my tastes. Mine's in my garage leaning against the wall since day one.
But not totally the fault of this stand. I planned to use it in blues band I was in last couple years. Guitardist just bought a whole QSC powered PA and kept telling me to just bring my NeoX 112T cab only to next gig. Next gig never came. That band stalled out and he went onto a busier band. I don't really blame him, that's why I'm onto other projects this year myself. But woulda been cool just to use a single 12 cab way up by my ears on that stand thru that awesome PA.
Two new bands this year for me, little or no PA for bass. So I'm still hauling 2x210's, a 212 or 410 cab to gigs. No biggee, slow giggin season with those new, bigger bands so far. Been using my BG250 combo for mostly all my gigs so far this year smaller bands.
Oh well; Onward and Upward.
OH YEAH, that stand is very well made, will hold alot more weight than my 112 easily, just wished it was abit shorter. Now wife wants to use it as her plants/craft table in backyard....awe what the hell, may as well.I went and bought one of these same stands at Lowes' after reading about it here. I've never used it for gigs yet mainly cause the stand is as big or bigger than my small cabs, takes too much room on stage and sits my cab way too high for my tastes. Mine's in my garage leaning against the wall since day one.
But not totally the fault of this stand. I planned to use it in blues band I was in last couple years. Guitardist just bought a whole QSC powered PA and kept telling me to just bring my NeoX 112T cab only to next gig. Next gig never came. That band stalled out and he went onto a busier band. I don't really blame him, that's why I'm onto other projects this year myself. But woulda been cool just to use a single 12 cab way up by my ears on that stand thru that awesome PA.
Two new bands this year for me, little or no PA for bass. So I'm still hauling 2x210's, a 212 or 410 cab to gigs. No biggee, slow giggin season with those new, bigger bands so far. Been using my BG250 combo for mostly all my gigs so far this year smaller bands.
Oh well; Onward and Upward.
Thanks very much. Yeah, after my post I took a look at the Husky online & its height concerns me, too. Did I read its specs right? Is it 2 1/2 feet tall?
Same here in the trio. Bass is a huge part of the overall sound. In the big band it doesn't matter quite as much.
I keep an EV 115 on the guitarists side - he likes to put his amp on it too. Being in between cabs the drummer gets the full effect and loves it.
The few times I have tried stands I have missed the low end.
Again, no you didn't. You just boosted the mids and highs but the low end is still there.
Yes, I knew a guitarist who believed that...meanwhile he was drilling everyone in the audience with extremely piercing treble because he believed it.
Ever step off the stage to hear your amp? Chances are you're doing the same thing. I know I was when I used to believe as you did. I say why not set your amp on the stage to let you hear what the audience is hearing from it rather than remaining clueless about what they're hearing? And then if it's too trebly for you, set the tone controls so it isn't, and then it won't be too trebly for anyone.
I always keep my cab on a stand, for exactly the reason that's been stated here a bunch. My bandmates always used to complain about how loud my bass was, and I could never figure out what they were talking about. Then at one practice, I put my cab up on top of a stool, and HOLY CRAP I all of a sudden understood. I was able to turn WAYYY down, now everyone's happy with volume levels, and I can still hear myself perfectly well.
I almost always have my singer play bass for a minute during soundcheck so I can walk the room, and I feel confident saying that having the cab up on the stand does not reduce the low-end out on the floor at all.
I almost always have my singer play bass for a minute during soundcheck so I can walk the room, and I feel confident saying that having the cab up on the stand does not reduce the low-end out on the floor at all.
Before I started using in-ears, I used a workbench from Home Depot to get my cab near my ears.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/202021...toreId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=202021304#.UWIix5OVOZw
It's proven to be quite useful even outside of gigs.
I checked this out at Home Depot and it was WAY too unstable. One nudge by a tippy listener and over she goes!
I use a folding plastic stand for a bit of cab elevation. It's particularly useful to protect the cab when I play at outdoor gigs with dirt or sand on the ground. Very stable.
The B&R Plastics 104-6BK Black Foldsz Stool elevates the cab 12 inches. Maximum capacity is 300 pounds. Top surface is 15.25" x 10". Folds up flat for storage and transportation. $28 and free shipping from Amazon.com.
The B&R Plastics 104-6BK Black Foldsz Stool elevates the cab 12 inches. Maximum capacity is 300 pounds. Top surface is 15.25" x 10". Folds up flat for storage and transportation. $28 and free shipping from Amazon.com.
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Yeah, I didn't believe it when Bill said it, and I still don't - I can both hear and feel the difference in low end when using a stand, and don't like it...
In another thread, effects like "acoustic coupling" and "boundary effect" were discussed - and I believe it applies when talking about putting cabs on stands...
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/why-does-putting-cab-floor-make-sound-so-huge-974246/
- georgestrings
Well I don't do stands, but I do tilt-backs with my smaller rigs, and when I've gotten off the stage to listen, they sound 100% identical when flipped up so the baffle touches the stage floor as they do when tilted back. And our guitarist does stands, and his rigs sound identical from the dance floor when he's got them flat on the stage floor or in a stand. So I tested Bill's knowledge with that one, and I found out he's right. I can only go by what my ears tell me since I'm not an audio scientist, and my ears told me Bill was accurate. I'd be interested in any relevant testing you've done as well to provide counterpoint.
I'm not saying this is the case but it begs to be asked - are you absolutely sure you're in tune and properly intonated (or your mates are)? I've had the "you're too loud" talk before in rehearsal situations where everyone was was f**kall cranked and after we all turned down a couple dozen dB, we realized the bass player was right out. Well that and we all had group tinnitus...
