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Ampeg 410HE really that bad? Say it ain't so TB

#22
Lot's of awesome feedback guys, I appreciate it. A lot of you are stressing the weight thing...I guess I never considered it because I'm a big guy, but with so many people mentioning it, maybe it's a pain in the ass. I shall take everyone's opinion to heart. I guess I'm just struggling to figure out how much juice I'll need. I haven't played a show yet, but I know I'd rather be too loud and turn down, than too quiet and cry ;) On a last note, if I decided to go with a 4x10, does anyone have a recommendation? I would like to stick within the $400-650 range and may get a bit of discount at guitar center, so even into the $750 area...
 
#25
I'm a young guy (21, pretty fit, i'd consider myself strong) and i had a 410 HLF for awhile. It sounded good, and was loud, but it was just seriously too god damn heavy and big. I now run through two eden 1x12s, get better lows IMO and it's so much easier to carry around.

Weight is an often overlooked aspect i think. it sucks killing yourself to load in and load out at the end of the night.
 
#27
I was curious too, because isn't it a sealed cab, thereby giving it a tight punchy sound in a smaller package than the 8x10 or 6x10? I love my Berg NV610. A sealed 4x10 sounds like a great idea to me. Ampeg stuff has always weighed a ton, it's because they are built like tanks and will last forever if treated with care and even under less than ideal conditions hold up remarkably well.
 
#29
Rather than get a 410, I'd get two 210's and stack them vertically. I used a 410 for years, but I really didn't like it. Its only real advantage is it puts out a lot of full-range volume in a medium package. But I think stacking 210's vertically is a much more efficient way of doing it. You get more throw, better performance off axis, a speaker pointed at your head so you can hear what's really coming out, and if you use a SS head you can operate at 4 ohms and get more power out of it.

I still like the 410HE (at least older ones), but I like single column rigs better...except for an 810...I love a good 810.
 
#32
it's weird, because the ampeg HLF cabs go lower than the 115E. and the 15 is on the punchier side. The whole "use the 15 for the lows" thing couldn't really be utilized with a 410 and a 115. but i do like the combination anyhow, and had it briefly, before switching to the PR410HLF monster cab.
 
#34
JimmyM said:
Rather than get a 410, I'd get two 210's and stack them vertically. I used a 410 for years, but I really didn't like it. Its only real advantage is it puts out a lot of full-range volume in a medium package. But I think stacking 210's vertically is a much more efficient way of doing it. You get more throw, better performance off axis, a speaker pointed at your head so you can hear what's really coming out, and if you use a SS head you can operate at 4 ohms and get more power out of it.

I still like the 410HE (at least older ones), but I like single column rigs better...except for an 810...I love a good 810.
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yeah but ampeg doesn't make a sealed 2x10. the tone of the 410 he is much different than the ported 2x10.
 
#35
kangarupe said:
How do you guys feel about Aguilar products, more specifically the GS212?
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I've had one for almost 5 years now. It's a great cab. Gets great lows and great highs, very smooth without the tweeter and glassy as you want it to be with the tweeter(i'm personally not a tweeter kind of guy, but it's a good one it that's your thing.) People say its a mid-shy cab, and I generally agree with this sentiment. However, if you use a mid-heavy amp, you will have no problems at all. I used to run an Aggie AG500 thru it with great results, now I use a GK 700RBII and love it with this head as well. Did I mention the great lows this cab gets?
It comes with casters included which makes it fairly easy to move as well. And it's not so heavy as to be back-breaking. The DB series cabs are supposed to be more middy cabs, but i've never had the pleasure to try one.
 
#36
If you like sealed cabs, and the "Ampeg sound", then I suppose the HE could work OK for you.... To me, they don't get low enough, nor loud enough for a 410 to be useable for me - and for the money, I think there are much better options available...

To each his or her own, though...



- georgestrings
 
#38
morebass! said:
yeah but ampeg doesn't make a sealed 2x10. the tone of the 410 he is much different than the ported 2x10.
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Why would you want a sealed 210? The bass response of a small cab needs porting if you're going to have any appreciable low end. Sealing only works in larger cabs IMHO. And why only Ampeg? Going for a look?
 
#39
I have a 250 watt version of the SVT 410HE. I think it sounds amazing. That said, I usually don't use it. The tone is very warm, and very pleasing to my ear. Not the typical "modern" tone I hear from a bunch of the high powered ported cabs these days. The problem is the volume - it "gives up" too fast for me. Many of my gigs are near the volume limit of this cab - not enough headroom for my likes.

Also, for a little 4x10, it has some weight.

I've tried it with an SVT 15EN, but that sounded too upper-mids, and actually had a lot less low end to it.

Wouldn't mind a double 4x10 stack, but again the weight would be the issue. (It would solve the volume problem with two cabs though.)
 
#40
I have the 4x10 HE and the 115 E. I like the 10's and feel that this combo with my SVT 3 Pro makes some sweet tone. I've used the HE alone at several gig's and thought it was awesome.
I don't feel that it's heavy, I've had gear that weighed more. No HE bashing for me, I like it alot.
 

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