Ampeg is mixing cabs!

[kdogg]

In the real world, mixing cabs doesn't matter...not even a little bit.

This exactly. No one outside of internet forums cares.

 

[MYLOWFREQ]

 

[OldCityBassman]

 

[Deleted member 165050]

In the real world, mixing cabs doesn't matter...not even a little bit.

It doesn't, but if you can hear something about the sound of a rig that you don't like then understanding the science might help you fix it.

I guess the answer is to listen with your ears and not with, er, the acoustics rule book of enclosure matching. Not that I've actually seen one of those in print.

 

[Nephilymbass]

I know that some of you don't like the idea, but it appears that Ampeg is ready to sell pre-mixed rigs.

Ampeg Portaflex PF800 Head, PF-410HLF 4x10/PF-115LF 1x15 800W Bass Amp Stack

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I run a 410e and the 15. I happen to like it a lot. I like the roundness of the 15 and the high end bite and volume of the 410. By themselves I have complaints about both, the 15 not having enough bite(I like to hear the clank when i dig in) the 410 is too boxy sounding by itself IMO.

Sometimes I even run them side by side

Btw for those who prefer 1 type of speaker here's the 810e I USED to use

 

[Goatee]

I don't think we can dispute the science that proves that random mixing, or placement of bass speakers is likely to result in problems. I believe the effect would be more noticeable at a venue like a large theater, or auditorium that was designed to have amplified sound than it would be in a small bar room not originally designed as a space to listen to amplified music.

I would dispute it, this whole topic is totally blown out of all proportion by those who try to impress with some technical "one-upmanship" on the theory behind speaker enclosures etc. but for 99% of the bass playing public it probably means nothing
If, as you say, the issue will be more noticable in a large venue then the only person who will notice the "problem" is you, the rest of the punters will be listining to the front of house system via DI ....and if in a small venue it is not noticable then there really is nothing to get worked up about is there?

 

[Dean N]

 

[rodl2005]

Do you believe everything a car ad tells you?

 

[wmhill]

 

[Gluvhand]

Ampeg and their dealers will sell you any of their products in any combination; Ampeg's primary concern is that you buy.

It's also the primary concern of any/every company. Ever.

 

[Downunderwonder]

If cabs were designed to be used together then...

Interesting that so many people here seem to know more than the guys who design this stuff.

and yet some Ampegs don't match well according to an actual user and nobody said the mixups can't work. Interesting someone always derides the mixed cab police without cause.

My mixed cabs work but not as well as when biamped.

 

[Goatee]

Has anyone ever played a gig where some one has come up to the afterwards and said "dude, that phase issue was really bad, you need to stop mixing cabs" ..

 

[Al Kraft]

Has anyone ever played a gig where some one has come up to the afterwards and said "dude, that phase issue was really bad, you need to stop mixing cabs" ..

Never happened to me in 40 years of playing bass, but then I typically color within the lines while reserving such outlaw type activity for biker and dive bars where you wouldn't necessarily find a respectable bass player in the audience.

 

[JimmyM]

It doesn't, but if you can hear something about the sound of a rig that you don't like then understanding the science might help you fix it.

I guess the answer is to listen with your ears and not with, er, the acoustics rule book of enclosure matching. Not that I've actually seen one of those in print.

They actually have them

 

[James Collins]

Would this be good for playing in my bedroom?

 

[Hoochie Coochie Man]

It doesn't, but if you can hear something about the sound of a rig that you don't like then understanding the science might help you fix it.

I guess the answer is to listen with your ears and not with, er, the acoustics rule book of enclosure matching. Not that I've actually seen one of those in print.

This might be it:

Handbook for Sound Engineers (Audio Engineering Society Presents): Glen Ballou: 9780415842938: Amazon.com: Books

But it will cost you $139.42 to find out.

 

[wintremute]

Someone loan me the $1500, and I'll do an in depth test.

 

[OldCityBassman]

Secret is put a flux capacitor in series with your crossover and you can mix and match all you want.

 

[Deleted member 165050]

This might be it:

Handbook for Sound Engineers (Audio Engineering Society Presents): Glen Ballou: 9780415842938: Amazon.com: Books

But it will cost you $139.42 to find out.

I think that might be a little more general than the fictional publication I was suggesting

 

[rodl2005]

Sonic screwdriver helps too