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Ampeg "Refrigerator" Questions?
- Thread starter The Ballzz
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I giggled (gigged) a pair of vertically stacked Goliath II's for a few years, then a 410HE for a few years, sometimes with a 115 on top. I've been gigging my 810 for a couple years now.
Just want to confirm what's already been said - the fridge is easier to schlep than the 410, the fridge puts your sound at ear level, and the fridge sounds great at ALL volume levels. Thank God, praise Allah, and blessed be all Deities for my "dumb itch".
Just want to confirm what's already been said - the fridge is easier to schlep than the 410, the fridge puts your sound at ear level, and the fridge sounds great at ALL volume levels. Thank God, praise Allah, and blessed be all Deities for my "dumb itch".
This gets you pretty close with an Ampeg SCR-DI upfront. Cabs weigh only 14kg each and give you a sealed cab sound with no tweeters and 1000w capacity.
Had a fridge. Traded it for a 212av. The 212av is almost the fridge in sound (like 99% of the sound) and yet I still miss the fridge. Loading it into the back of my truck was pretty easy. Just tilt and push as opposed to the dead lift for the 212.
All 810s sound great but if JimmyM says the Heritage sounds greater... go buy that. You will not be disappointed.
All 810s sound great but if JimmyM says the Heritage sounds greater... go buy that. You will not be disappointed.
They are the same cab. The only difference is that speakons were new back in the late 90s and SLM added an N to denote Neutrik. Only lasted about a year.
Thanks folks. A lot of fantastic food for thought! It looks like a fridge it is. Ifound one in nice shape for $400 and a good condition SVT 4PRO/810 package for $900.
Thanks Again,
Gene
Thanks Again,
Gene
I added a handle to mine to make it easier to drag out of the pickup. Doubles as a lift handle. We played in a hay barn loft last Summer. Came in handy.
Both of those cabinets are meant to be ran full-range. You'll likely find a massive increase in tone simply by no longer biamping and plugging one cabinet straight into the other.
I mean, we all want an SVT so by all means get one, but the Carvin can be better than it currently is, both immediately and for free.
You make some good points sir! I'm betting that note response and tone will improve and even out by "full ranging" the rig! Still want the SVT though!
Thanks Sir!
Gene
410he being close to half a 810
Then again I'm surprised and nice to see real world comments here.
410 is a ass to load and a deadlift
It is absolutely easier in every way to load a 810 and even easier to roll one. Regardless of weight.
Being I toured with a pair of particle board 810s for years. I'd rather have 2 x810 then even imagining how dreadful 4x410 would be. To me even a particle board 810 isn't that bad.
Question is lol. How is that big 810 gonna make your 10 watt guitar amp feel.
However generic people may feel a 810 loaded with legend speakers is. Unfortunately they are legends for a reason.
Likewise aside from higher power G12 or the generic Marshall stack.
Let me remind you that a 30 watt or 40 watt 6L6 pair has it's magic as well in the guitar world
Likewise of the six million guitar speakers out there the Vintage 30 has it's benchmark.
So yah know a V30 loaded 212 cabinet and a 6L6 pair wouldn't be asking for to much....
Open back single driver combos have their place. But a large sealed back 2x12 has some presence and depth
Then again I'm surprised and nice to see real world comments here.
410 is a ass to load and a deadlift
It is absolutely easier in every way to load a 810 and even easier to roll one. Regardless of weight.
Being I toured with a pair of particle board 810s for years. I'd rather have 2 x810 then even imagining how dreadful 4x410 would be. To me even a particle board 810 isn't that bad.
Question is lol. How is that big 810 gonna make your 10 watt guitar amp feel.
However generic people may feel a 810 loaded with legend speakers is. Unfortunately they are legends for a reason.
Likewise aside from higher power G12 or the generic Marshall stack.
Let me remind you that a 30 watt or 40 watt 6L6 pair has it's magic as well in the guitar world
Likewise of the six million guitar speakers out there the Vintage 30 has it's benchmark.
So yah know a V30 loaded 212 cabinet and a 6L6 pair wouldn't be asking for to much....
Open back single driver combos have their place. But a large sealed back 2x12 has some presence and depth
410he being close to half a 810
Then again I'm surprised and nice to see real world comments here.
410 is a ass to load and a deadlift
It is absolutely easier in every way to load a 810 and even easier to roll one. Regardless of weight.
Being I toured with a pair of particle board 810s for years. I'd rather have 2 x810 then even imagining how dreadful 4x410 would be. To me even a particle board 810 isn't that bad.
Question is lol. How is that big 810 gonna make your 10 watt guitar amp feel.
However generic people may feel a 810 loaded with legend speakers is. Unfortunately they are legends for a reason.
Likewise aside from higher power G12 or the generic Marshall stack.
Let me remind you that a 30 watt or 40 watt 6L6 pair has it's magic as well in the guitar world
Likewise of the six million guitar speakers out there the Vintage 30 has it's benchmark.
So yah know a V30 loaded 212 cabinet and a 6L6 pair wouldn't be asking for to much....
Open back single driver combos have their place. But a large sealed back 2x12 has some presence and depth
Good perspective and comments sir.
All of my low watt amps will be just fine. I've been an avid tube fan for +50 years and in general don't use stomp boxes, so the amps need to be cranked. I always use a sealed back 4x10 or 4x12 Marshall box and anything above 15 watts would likely get me kicked out of most gin mills, without pay! 
The bane of my existence, as a guitarist has always been the phrase "WOW, your guitar sounds fantastic, can you just turn it down a little bit?" Of course, my little amps always get a mic on them! 
Thanks For Noticin'
Gene
Oh
Few watts into a 412 is probably very good balance between a good mix and hitting tube breakup.
Done about the same in the bass playing world. Most rave on about how 600 to 800 watts is what's needed.
With my trusty 810s I've hit a nice mix and saturation point with 100 and 200 watt solid state and tube amps with no problem.
Don't need pedals, hybrid amps, compression or ridiculous rack setups.
One cab, one cord to the head and another cord to the speaker.
All done !! Woot
Few watts into a 412 is probably very good balance between a good mix and hitting tube breakup.
Done about the same in the bass playing world. Most rave on about how 600 to 800 watts is what's needed.
With my trusty 810s I've hit a nice mix and saturation point with 100 and 200 watt solid state and tube amps with no problem.
Don't need pedals, hybrid amps, compression or ridiculous rack setups.
One cab, one cord to the head and another cord to the speaker.
All done !! Woot
A curiosity here: Has anyone ever bothered installing skid rails on one or both sides of the 810 boxes, to help preserve the Tolex? Many of the used ones I see have fairly nice, intact Tolex on the backs (where the rails are), while the sides are shredded or bare!
Just Curious?
Gene
Just Curious?
Gene
