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Ampeg svt2pro or svt8pro?

#22
Yes it may be i am standing close to the cabs, thats a good point. Also buying another 2 pro is a good point because then you are running the 8x10 on what the are suppose to run which is 4 ohms rathen then 2 bcause yo have to switch it on the back of the head when you split. any more ideas guys, thanks for all the help so far.
 
#25
I realize, unlike most on this forum seemingly, that often times getting your guitarists to turn down is just not an option.

Along with checking tubes, i would recommnd using the graphic eq. You could try to make it so there isnt a tone difference from what you already have, then just slide all of the sliders up for a volume boost. Especially the level slider. This slider alone can add a TON of volume.

That's my .02
 
#27
SavaAEC said:
it adds a tone of volume but the problem is the speakers break up so much it sounds terrible through the ampeg 8x10
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Ah, I see.

In that case, definitely use your graphic EQ.

On the lowest slider, take it down to the middle notch (or all the way down preferably) and compenate with the next couple notches.

That will save your speakers a lot of strain by taking away the bass frequencies you don't really hear. The compensation will then make it so you can still rumble the house.

If that fails, you may want to check each speaker of your cabinets individually to see if you have a speaker(s) blown.
 
#28
i had the same problem with my 2pro. while my solution was swapping it for a slightly lighter 400+, i think retubing is what you're looking to do.
i went to dougstubes.com and emailed him what i wanted as far as my sound and headroom were concerned and he recommended what tubes to put it and they fixed all of my problems. while getting another 2pro would sound amazing, i don't think it is the best solution economically and running the head at 2ohms should be fine imo. the waveform solution could be a big one too. best of luck.
 
#29
Ok thanks so far for everyone for chiming in and helping and giving your thoughts as well! So i should stick with the 2pro and not get the 8pro, change my tubes. and turn on my graphics EQ and mess with that to get the speakers not to break up? Beacuse as of now i have it turned off when i use my stingray. basically what i am trying to get is a loud growling train that will run through the mix and be heard very well and pronounced. any ideas still?
 
#32
yes we play out we are signed to one of the bigger punk rock labels out of the united states with bands from anti flags record label, no idea records and nitro records. the label is gc records (geykido comet) the band is amish electric chair. Like i said i am against a 1959 marshall plexi! and a mesa boogi duely. maybe you dont know anythign about guitars but for 12 years i played guitar in a melodic death/thrash band and just switched over to bass a couple years ago. This is why i am asking these questions about my 2pro, because in our style of melodic punk the bass is very pronounced and is suppose to be a main focus
 
#35
Alright then put your **** on ebay.
But seriously a 300 watt tube head should be enough. Maybe try one 8x10, not two.
But I am wondering if you and the rest of the band can hear the drummer live? Doesn't the vocalist has any problem with the amps being that loud? It's just not good to play that loud. No matter where you play, the stage levels should be in balance all the time (monitoring is just for personal adjustments). And when you have to crack up an SVT 2-pro and you still can't get through the mix. Something is very wrong with the stage levels. Or maybe your amp is broken, maybe try to boost the mids a bit.
 
#37
My advice is to try a different amp. See if you can borrow an amp with similar power and compare it to your head. Something like a Mesa Big Block 750, G-K 1001RB, Aguilar AG500, Mesa Bass 400+, etc. and see if you can hear yourself any better.

I owned an Ampeg SVT 2 Pro years ago and experienced the exact same issue as you. The amp just wasn't nearly as loud as it ought to be. It turned out the limiter circuitry in the amp wasn't working right and the amp was being limited all the time.

I have played in similar bands to yours in terms of gear set up and I can say that you should have no problem keeping up with your guitarists rigs with 300 good tube watts and a single 8x10.

It sounds to me like your amp is not giving you what it should.
 
#38
I use a 3-Pro into a 2x15, and I compete with a 5150 full stack and a JCM 800 full stack - and I have no volume issues. Often the soundman is telling me to turn down. The 2 Pro is a great amp IMO, and I would try tweaking it first before getting the 8-Pro. I'm personally not a fan of 810's, as they dont throw like a 215 and they dont put out the deeper low frequncies I like to feel. Depending on your guitarists tone - you may want to try to scoop out some mids and boost your low end so you arent competing for the same frequncy spectrum.
 
#40
Sava, you have found out what I ALSO figured out. With these 100W speakers in the 810's one SVT drives one 810 cabinet. There is nothing wrong with your amp.

The SVT-8PRO is the first amplifier AMPEG has built that actually has enough power to drive two cabs SINCE the original SVT with the 50W speakers.

OK so what do you do? You might do what most of the touring artists do that run two or more 810 cabs; run one head per cab. This in your case means buying another SVT-2; not a bad choice.

The other option is pick up an 8PRO when they rerelease them. I highly recommend trying it first. We both know it has enough power to light up a pair of 810's; the question will be if you like the tone as well as your SVT2.

Have fun, BOB
 

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