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An audition requires you to play with a pick. Why?

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#61
If you want and expect everyone to say "please" and "thank you," maybe playing in bars and the music business, in general, isn't the place for you.

It really is staggering how much people can read into a simple statement like "Pick players only." You'd think you were all psychologists with a PhD the way you are parsing a simple musician wanted ad.
 
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bassmonkeee said:
If you want and expect everyone to say "please" and "thank you," maybe playing in bars and the music business, in general, isn't the place for you.

It really is staggering how much people can read into a simple statement like "Pick players only." You'd think you were all psychologists with a PhD the way you are parsing a simple musician wanted ad.
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I guess you're saying my 14+ years as a musician has been for naught, and that somehow, my worldview and way of approaching life/people etc... in a positive way has been a failure, and has been of no value, and I've just never realized it before you spoke up. Thanks.

:rollno:

Well, I've said my bit, and moving on. Enjoy your thread.
 
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Thunderthumbs73 said:
I guess you're saying my 14+ years as a musician has been for naught, and that somehow, my worldview and way of approaching life/people etc... in a positive way has been a failure, and has been of no value, and I've just never realized it before you spoke up. Thanks.

:rollno:
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Oh, dear:(

Well, I've said my bit, and moving on. Enjoy your thread.
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If you haven't come to the realization that people are different and they may not express themselves the way you prefer, maybe it was for naught.

I agree with bassmonkeee... there was so much read into the OP it's laughable. A simple albeit blunt requirement statement was seen as an affront to bassists everywhere (Why I never!:mad: )

What I read was they want someone who plays with a pick. They didn't want someone who didn't play with a pick. The statement was short and sweet, got to the point in an extremely short period of time. That's what I READ. I didn't go all Deepak Chopra and hypothesize on their motives... because assuming in many instances is just plain dumb. Email them, pick up the phone, ASK THEM. Then you'll at least have a better idea than just making the typical WAG.

There is nothing positive about assuming people's motives. This thread is full of that crap.

It didn't take me 14 years to learn any of this.
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#71
my friends uncle auditioned for a band about 30 years ago. they said he was great, but diddnt play with a pick and gave him the boot. the guy who got the spot in that band was gene simmons..

anyway, if someone told me i had to play and one specific way id tell them to have a good day and be on my way..
 
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Thunderthumbs73 said:
I guess you're saying my 14+ years as a musician has been for naught, and that somehow, my worldview and way of approaching life/people etc... in a positive way has been a failure, and has been of no value, and I've just never realized it before you spoke up. Thanks.

:rollno:

Well, I've said my bit, and moving on. Enjoy your thread.
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Funny.

I guess they will just go with the guy who says, "yeah it's your band, whatever you think works best". Even if they don't have "14+ years of experience".
 
#73
Brad Johnson said:
I love this place.

Sounded like they wanted someone who played with a pick to me. Period.
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It's actually a conspiracy. The guitarists of the world have gotten together since bassplayers have learned to tap and play sweep arpeggios and said, "Enough! let's make them all play with picks and see how damn clever they think they are then". Then they all rub their hands together and laugh an evil chuckle.

Either that or they wanted to see a bunch of conspiracy theorists formulate a theory on a secret alien cover-up based on the fact that all bass players should use picks.
 
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My god. This topic is full of idiots.

For the people who think that a stupid ad is trying to restrict how you play; why are you letting it affect you? It's an AD, it addresses EVERYONE THAT READS IT. The way some people are describing their opinions of this, they make it seem as is whoever put u the ad is directly targeting them. Of course, this argument fails when you realize that there is more that one person that feels offended by this ad. That means that the ad cannot be personally attacking you because it's also personally attacking other people. Which means that it ISN'T attacking you.

Also, anyone that feels that this is restricting is a hypocrite. You say that you wouldn't want an ad to tell you how you should be playing, but it seems to me like you guys just don't like pick players.

Anyway, back to ad attacks? How can this thing hurt you if it's just and ad? Unless you know the band, it isn't restricting you. Plain and simple. It can't, because you're not going to the audition. Okay? The only people that it would restrict are those people that don't use a pick but go to the audition anyway, only to complain about how the band is trying to "tell them how to play when they don't even know them".

In case some of you decide to not read it, I'll put it here again, and in bold to make sure you see it. THE AD IS NOT RESTRICTING YOU. YOU DON'T KNOW THEM, THEY DON'T KNOW YOU. IT CANNOT RESTRICT YOU UNLESS YOU LET IT RESTRICT YOU. And if you do let it stop you from at least trying to play bass with a pick, then shame on you.

I also love how people are making so many generalizations about the band just because they want a pick player. As it has been said by other posters here, not ever bass player that uses a pick (and not every band that has such a pick player) sucks. That's like saying that you have to play a certain way to be good at bass, which maks you even more of a hypocrite. There have been many great and well-paid bass players that simply play root note and 1/4 notes. Leave them be already.

Bottom line, some people need to get off their high horses. Not everyone wants to play like you do, and a random ad you see about playing style is not an attack aimed at you.
 
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mutedeity said:
It's actually a conspiracy. The guitarists of the world have gotten together since bassplayers have learned to tap and play sweep arpeggios and said, "Enough! let's make them all play with picks and see how damn clever they think they are then". Then they all rub their hands together and laugh an evil chuckle.

Either that or they wanted to see a bunch of conspiracy theorists formulate a theory on a secret alien cover-up based on the fact that all bass players should use picks.
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:D
 
#76
What really bothers me is that I replied to a different ad (they didn't specify playing with a pick), and when I started playing, they stopped and said: "oh, you don't play with a pick?"

We eventually finished the song, but then they just said, ok thanks, see ya.

I don't know what's the deal with the pick or no pick. I will have to listen to a song played with a pick and same song played bright at the bridge and see if I can really tell the difference.
 
#78
Bah I played an all out concert and we opened up with Frank Stallone's Far From Over, DEFINITELY pick material.

Then a medley of Proud Mary, Zucchero's Baila Morena and Tom Petty's Running Down a Dream.

You better believe I used a pick! First gig I ever have but hey.
 
#79
I didn't make it through the whole thread, so if you are reading this, you are a better TBer than I.

Here is my $.02:

A pro bassist needs to be able to play finger-style, with a pick, and slap well. You also need to know how to get musical results in many styles with each one, and why. If that makes no sense to you, fine, one less competitor for me and the others who can adapt to the dizzying variety in contemporary bass. To me, it is about getting good gigs.
 
#80
Idk, some band are specific but there are plenty of bands where something you wouldn't expect would flow with the music depending on the player.

Yes, there are obvious differences based on pick vs finger but a lot has to deal with the player. I go back again to David J Haskins, fretless P bass with a pick...and it worked with GOTH ROCK...I am dumbfounded to this day (not hard to do when it concerns technical bass stuff lol). If you really want to try out for the band, tell them "Lemme play some lines and tell me what you think" but if you're just passing by, don't waste your time on them...IMO a good band is open to variety and collaboration not just their own ideas =/
 
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