Analog modeling on a bass amp?

[B-string]

Good option as well. He stated about $200. combined so I was thinking with a call into sweetwater it should come close to the $200 mark.

Reading back through your are right, he's looking for a one bill ($100.00) option.

 

[honeyiscool]

I'm leaning towards the Fender Bronco 40 for the OP's needs?
Fender Bronco 40 1x10" 40-Watt Bass Combo | Sweetwater.com

That amp is, like, not as good as a Rumble 40. Yes, I've had both.

The thing about all this analog modeling stuff is, at this price range, why not just get a good amp that has some level of good, rather than an amp that hides behind versatility to be kind of mediocre at everything?

 

[B-string]

We are trying to find what he wants, not what we want.

 

[Downunderwonder]

Cashing all the reality checks nets another zero dollars.

I think you're best to make do with status quo and save up for a decent noise maker rather than a better practice amp.

 

[CGremlin]

The reliability myth is not borne out in the real world. I've had several Behringer products and the failure rate so far is zero.

On the other hand, mine is two out of three (Xenyx 2442FX and MX9000, both power supply issues), and the one piece that hasn't died at some point is a patchbay.

 

[JimmyM]

A buddy of mine uses Behringer X32 boards on his sound gigs, and always has to bring at least two (he owns 3) because they crap out a lot. He loves the sound of the board and the price, though, so he puts up with it.

 

[honeyiscool]

We are trying to find what he wants, not what we want.

When your budget is $100, you don't know what you want.

 

[CGremlin]

A buddy of mine uses Behringer X32 boards on his sound gigs, and always has to bring at least two (he owns 3) because they crap out a lot.

I still don't know what's wrong with the Xenyx since I haven't looked at it yet (although there were sparks and smoke, so at least it was entertaining). The MX9000's problem was a very common one with that mixer - Behringer used LM350 regulators on the +/-17VDC supplies, which are rated for 3.5A. I'm not sure how they thought they were going to manage that with 3A regulators. Replaced them with LM338s (5A), and all was well again. Aside from the power supply, the 9000 is a decent mixer otherwise.

 

[cfsporn]

I am doubling your budget, but this ticks all of the boxes except that one.

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[OnederTone]

There's nothing new under the sun in the world of audio electronics. With few exceptions, all audio gear uses the same basic building blocks as all other audio gear. This is an opinion based not on hearsay but on decades working in electronics.

By the way, they look completely different, so let's not get into the "trade dress" argument.

Oddly enough, about 20 years ago Tech21 NYC had something "new under the sun"

 

[Strett0]

There is huge question about my budget. My budget right now is around 200. I would be willing to get one at a time also. So 400 for two things.

 

[Strett0]

Thankyou for all your help by the way.

 

[AgressivePassiv]

A cheap powered speaker with the behringer sansamp like DI will get the op all he's looking for and keep him under budget.

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Behringer BDI21 V-Tone Bass Driver Bass Amp Modeler/Direct Recording Preamp/DI Box Pedal | Musician's Friend

 

[Strett0]

A cheap powered speaker with the behringer sansamp like DI will get the op all he's looking for and keep him under budget.

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Behringer BDI21 V-Tone Bass Driver Bass Amp Modeler/Direct Recording Preamp/DI Box Pedal | Musician's Friend

Now there's an idea! Thanks! I think I will do that.

 

[AgressivePassiv]

Now there's an idea! Thanks! I think I will do that.

Any time Buthaa!

I've run dirty analog DIs through PA systems for both rehearsals and the occasional live show. You should be fine with that set up.

 

[Dave W]

Now there's an idea! Thanks! I think I will do that.

That cab only goes down to 70hz.

If your budget "could" be up to $400...I would wait until you have $400 and just spend it on one decent amp.

 

[AgressivePassiv]

That cab only goes down to 70hz.

If your budget "could" be up to $400...I would wait until you have $400 and just spend it on one decent amp.

Just trying to keep man under budget.

There is a Kustom Powered cab with 15" speaker that goes down to 60hz, it's $40 more. He'd still be under budget.

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The ampeg 810 cab only goes down to 58hz and that has been one of the most popular bass enclosures on earth for almost 50 years.

 

[Dave W]

Just trying to keep man under budget.

I understand. I just don't think it'll be all that useful as a bass amp or much better than what he's already using. He'd be better off buying pretty much any Peavey bass combo off of Craigslist for $100.

The ampeg 810 cab only goes down to 58hz and that has been one of the most popular bass enclosures on earth for almost 50 years.

You really can't compare the two.

 

[AgressivePassiv]

I understand. I just don't think it'll be all that useful as a bass amp or much better than what he's already using. He'd be better off buying pretty much any Peavey bass combo off of Craigslist for $100.

I think the jump from 15 to 100 watts should make a big difference for what the op wants to do. To be loud and knarly for $200 or less.

I have some very nice rigs and I've been guilty of being a gear snob but last year I jammed with my godson's punk band with just a Tech 21 VTDI into a beat up TOA powered mixer(looked like an old air conditioner that fell from a 3rd floor window)into one no name pa cab that was supplying the vocals too. I dialed up the mids and dirt and it sounded great and we had a fun afternoon.

I imagine the op would be able to do the same and have extra coin left in his pocket with my suggestions.


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Agreed. Just talking freq response.

 

[Dave W]

I think the jump from 15 to 100 watts should make a big difference for what the op wants to do. To be loud and knarly for $200 or less.

I have some very nice rigs and I've been guilty of being a gear snob but last year I jammed with my godson's punk band with just a Tech 21 VTDI into a beat up TOA powered mixer(looked like an old air conditioner that fell from a 3rd floor window)into one no name pa cab that was supplying the vocals too. I dialed up the mids and dirt and it sounded great and we had a fun afternoon.

I imagine the op would be able to do the same and have extra coin left in his pocket with my suggestions.

I'm not being a gear snob. Players come here all the time trying to find a much cheaper way to get around getting a bass amp. It never really seems to work out for them, and they just end up spending even more money because their workaround idea didn't do what they wanted it to do.
A PA is certainly a viable option, but is not going to be cheaper than buying a standalone bass amp and give the same sound/volume.

Agreed. Just talking freq response.

A single 12" speaker reproducing 70hz is going to sound significantly different than eight 10" speakers reproducing 58hz. That' a huge difference, thus not comparable at all.

I don't want to get into a huge derail with you.