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Anyone else feel like your gigs are suddenly drying up?

Was talking to a singer who nornmally has around 20 gigs in the book for next year at this time.
He has a couple but there are plenty of gigs currently around.
I expect venues to be wary and delay committing in these times, but I'm beginning to hit up my targetted places so will really have a better idea next month but I expect it to be ok. The venues I've talked to recently have done this years budget.
I expect Jan/Feb to be slow and from March to pick up and then Summer, normal??
 
COVID was just the latest nail in the coffin:

Increased drinking age took away the college crowd

Eliminating smoking took a away a lot of people looking for somewhere out of the house to hang

Stricter DUI enforcement meant a lot of people spent less on drinks, and left the bars sooner

Etc.


I'm curious....does legalized weed factor into it at all? as in, "Hey I can light up at home, no need to go out, I prefer this to drinking at the bar..."

It's no my thing but that a new variable in the mix.

In my county, the brilliant Powers That Be added a 10% food tax on everything. It sure curbed me an the Missus eating out. Last night we did go out for dinner. A glass of of iced tea...only refilled once...was $4
 
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I was talking to the bass player in a very popular event band in town and he said their gigs are really dwindling, especially now through the holidays, because nobody is having big corporate parties anymore since covid. They are a large production with lots of mouths to feed (with dedicated crew, sound, lights, etc) so their price might have something to do with it as well.
 
I'm curious....does legalized weed factor into it at all? as in, "Hey I can light up at home, no need to go out, I prefer this to drinking at the bar..."

It's no my thing but that a new variable in the mix.

I don't think so. People can smoke at the bar (or parking lot). Remember, with alcohol, a major portion of their income is the money people are spending on the drinks.
 
It's either feast or famine around here. Plenty of gigs for the basic 9-2AM classic rock as well as frat, singer songwriter, irish drinkalong bands work around here. The drag is that none of the above interests me.
Well, I like classic rock, but not playing it at the hours listed.
 
People have 5 streaming services, massive entertainment systems, the internet, and are afraid of getting nailed for driving while under the influence.
Going out at all is drying up. And those that do, usually are meeting people they want to talk to.
We are an original band, so it is even harder for us, but we have gone to a 4 times a year schedule.
1) we can find those gigs easy
2) we can attract an audience large enough to still play a good venue

It sucks man, but live music is dead, dead, dead.
 
Admittedly, this band didn't form to play bars, weddings, or corporate party's. Community concert series and openers for national tours of classic southern rock types had been our niche. After COVID, we've seen a trend where the promoters are pairing some of those acts together rather than enlisting a local opener. Pay for openers is stupid low as it is.... enough for gas and something to eat, yet some of these promoters try to get you to play for free, and we don't play that game.
 
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Live blues acts and bands with a blues vibe, classic rock bands focusing predominantly on 60s/70s/80s ( its 2023 - technically 90s and 00s is Classic Rock and 60s/70s/80s are Oldies and I noticed a lot of players still haven't come to terms with that yet), and associated venues have gone through quite a noticeable fast attrition in my area with general clubs. A few years ago they were abundant but I noticed a drastic drop in the past year alone. Blues and Classic Rock Boomers don't seem to get out as much as they used to and blues and oldies Classic rock is often a deterrent for younger folks ( one club in my area refers to blues as the "B" word lol).....on the other hand, there's a lot of gigs for 60s/70s/80s in 55+ communities ( I'm not too far from The Villages in Florida which hosts a lot of these 55+ gigs)
 
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Hell it's even hard to find anyone to even start a project around here! All I seem to find are crackpots and clowns! Here is a link to the last post I posted last week! I really honestly dont know why I bother to continue with the punishment except I still enjoy playing, but alone playing to mps's dont cut it for me!

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/thinking-about-quitting.1624263/
 
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I have two gigging projects (see sig), a Blues Brothers tribute (BBNG) and a classic rock bar band (Mugshot Monday).

Last fall through winter, BBNG seemed to have hit a new level. For the first time in the years I've been playing with them, we booked actual stage shows for ticket-buying audiences, and were able to bring about 300 people to each. We also play parades, did the massive Boston St. Pat's parade and then three separate Independence Day weekend parades leading up to July 4.

Mugshot got quiet over the winter just as BBNG was busiest, and in the midst of that our guitarist quit and we brought a new one on board. The summer schedule initially looked empty, then all of a sudden gig offers poured in - a posh private party for our biggest payday ever, Laconia Bike Week (two shows) for our biggest crowd ever, and a string of the usual bars and clubs. It was getting to the point that the Mrs. was getting annoyed that the band was taking up so much of my time.

Between the two groups, I had 17 gigs from May to September this year. Not as busy as some, but a good clip for me. Now, for the rest of 2023 to New Year's, I have three, including NYE.

Not sure what happened; I've never noticed such a dramatic dropoff before. BBNG had another stage show scheduled, then the theater canceled because they had planned on it also being a BBQ event and the fire marshal wouldn't grant a permit. Another fall club gig got moved to next spring. All that leaves for them is a Halloween parade. I'm not too surprised, because it's a big group and expensive to book and summer is usually its busy season with town fairs and things. Mugshot just doesn't have anything except a legion post gig and NYE. The singer of that group does the booking, and she's been frank that she hasn't been too active about pursuing gigs because the ones we were getting, it was them that approached her. But some new places she has been trying to get us into haven't been returning her calls.

The thing with Mugshot is that we're a good entertaining act, and get good feedback, but I also know the singer is inconsistent musically. She has friends who will spontaneously livestream a song from a gig and sometimes when I go to listen later, I cringe at how off-key she can be. She's not always bad, most of the time she nails it, but not consistently. I'm wondering if prospective venues that don't already know us are checking us out on FB and deciding to pass when they hear it.

Bottom line, I'm wondering how often the rest of you hit this kind of a slump, and if it's probably just a temporary thing or if I should be concerned and looking at other options.
I wonder if there was a temporary post-lockdown surge of people going out that is now receding
 
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Live blues acts and bands with a blues vibe, classic rock bands focusing predominantly on 60s/70s/80s ( its 2023 - technically 90s and 00s is Classic Rock and 60s/70s/80s are Oldies and I noticed a lot of players still haven't come to terms with that yet), and associated venues have gone through quite a noticeable fast attrition in my area with general clubs. A few years ago they were abundant but I noticed a drastic drop in the past year alone. Blues and Classic Rock Boomers don't seem to get out as much as they used to and blues and oldies Classic rock is often a deterrent for younger folks ( one club in my area refers to blues as the "B" word lol).....on the other hand, there's a lot of gigs for 60s/70s/80s in 55+ communities ( I'm not too far from The Villages in Florida which hosts a lot of these 55+ gigs)

You know, I used to think that, but I'm not so sure. I keep running into Millennials who say they prefer classic rock to contemporary music. My 25-year-old son is a huge Jimmy Buffet fan. I was just at a bar a week or two ago talking to a young waitress and asked her what she liked, and it was classics, not contemporary. I have a friend in her early thirties who is very "alternative" in her vibe and lifestyle and when I asked her what her favorite music was, it was Elton John and Hall and Oates. A few years back - about 2017ish - I started a trio called Six Cowards to play only more recent music - alternative and indie stuff but high-profile, like the Arctic Monkeys, Black Keys, Cage the Elephant, Death Cab for Cutie (I thought of them as the "alphabet" of bands we covered...). It didn't really draw a crowd and fizzled out after a year or so.

I think this is due to something I've commented on a lot in these forums, the way the digital revolution has changed the game. Music being "old" doesn't matter now the way it used to. That's because streaming makes everything, no matter when it came out, equally accessible, whereas when I was young Casey Kasem's top 40 countdown mattered and you paid attention to what the new hits were on the radio.
 
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There’s always factors like…
There’s a lot of bands around here all “fighting” for that audience. A lot of times, that audience is musicians…and if they’re playing…they are not at your event.

Season changes…snowstorms, heatwaves, people just like to stay home at times.
People on vacations and trips…like summertime or fall trips.
School starts again…people are busy with their children’s stuff.
At times around here, people are stretched thin because there are a lot of venues and bands all playing the same night.
Of course, holidays.
Many factors and reasons, and mostly, we don’t know why.
 
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Hell it's even hard to find anyone to even start a project around here! All I seem to find are crackpots and clowns! Here is a link to the last post I posted last week! I really honestly dont know why I bother to continue with the punishment except I still enjoy playing, but alone playing to mps's dont cut it for me!

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/thinking-about-quitting.1624263/
Hell it's even hard to find anyone to even start a project around here! All I seem to find are crackpots and clowns! Here is a link to the last post I posted last week! I really honestly dont know why I bother to continue with the punishment except I still enjoy playing, but alone playing to mps's dont cut it for me!

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/thinking-about-quitting.1624263/
It’s like that excerpt from that one Stealer’s Wheels song. “Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. Craigslist is nearly useless. You could look at our local one. There’s about a dozen people or bands that keep reposting again and again. They’re all in my stay away list.
 
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I'm curious....does legalized weed factor into it at all? as in, "Hey I can light up at home, no need to go out, I prefer this to drinking at the bar..."

It's no my thing but that a new variable in the mix.

In my county, the brilliant Powers That Be added a 10% food tax on everything. It sure curbed me a the Missus eating out. Last night we did go out for dinner. A glass of of iced tea...only refilled once...was $4
I notice they just smoke it at the bar…outside. I know it’s illegal but it doesn’t seem to keep anyone from doing it. One place we play at…people just go to the “green” room in the basement to smoke it. I seen some people just do a one hitter right in the bar.
 
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'My' variety/events band has somehow been getting work, but the offered rate is down about 20 per cent.
Flirting dangerously close to the 'I can't go for that' range...
Event notices for blues and classic rock shows are way down; there still are some, but my band isn't getting them...
 
I have two gigging projects (see sig), a Blues Brothers tribute (BBNG) and a classic rock bar band (Mugshot Monday).

Last fall through winter, BBNG seemed to have hit a new level. For the first time in the years I've been playing with them, we booked actual stage shows for ticket-buying audiences, and were able to bring about 300 people to each. We also play parades, did the massive Boston St. Pat's parade and then three separate Independence Day weekend parades leading up to July 4.

Mugshot got quiet over the winter just as BBNG was busiest, and in the midst of that our guitarist quit and we brought a new one on board. The summer schedule initially looked empty, then all of a sudden gig offers poured in - a posh private party for our biggest payday ever, Laconia Bike Week (two shows) for our biggest crowd ever, and a string of the usual bars and clubs. It was getting to the point that the Mrs. was getting annoyed that the band was taking up so much of my time.

Between the two groups, I had 17 gigs from May to September this year. Not as busy as some, but a good clip for me. Now, for the rest of 2023 to New Year's, I have three, including NYE.

Not sure what happened; I've never noticed such a dramatic dropoff before. BBNG had another stage show scheduled, then the theater canceled because they had planned on it also being a BBQ event and the fire marshal wouldn't grant a permit. Another fall club gig got moved to next spring. All that leaves for them is a Halloween parade. I'm not too surprised, because it's a big group and expensive to book and summer is usually its busy season with town fairs and things. Mugshot just doesn't have anything except a legion post gig and NYE. The singer of that group does the booking, and she's been frank that she hasn't been too active about pursuing gigs because the ones we were getting, it was them that approached her. But some new places she has been trying to get us into haven't been returning her calls.

The thing with Mugshot is that we're a good entertaining act, and get good feedback, but I also know the singer is inconsistent musically. She has friends who will spontaneously livestream a song from a gig and sometimes when I go to listen later, I cringe at how off-key she can be. She's not always bad, most of the time she nails it, but not consistently. I'm wondering if prospective venues that don't already know us are checking us out on FB and deciding to pass when they hear it.

Bottom line, I'm wondering how often the rest of you hit this kind of a slump, and if it's probably just a temporary thing or if I should be concerned and looking at other options.
If gigging if your thing, then always be hustling.
 
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