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Anyone else just HATE Apple?
- Thread starter Alex
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Well, since Macs adopted Intel CPUs and are essentially just PCs, that doesn't mean much.
Kinda funny actually, in a sad way, that Apple has evolved into basically just a PC and their OS has evolved into (er, was completely rewritten (er, borrowed from BSD)) UNIX.
Apple = FAIL!
- Dave
Now the thread is really showing some "I don't know what the ____ I'm talking about. I don't mean from an opinion perspective I mean there is good reason why some comments on this thread are said but it seems with little understanding of why.
Point 1. Essentially the Mac is a PC now. No, it's not a Mac that runs Windows more a PC made by Apple that runs Windows.
Point 2. The Mac operating system is not the Mac operating system anymore and hasn't been for some time. It's a Unix BSD dist that again also and has for some time run on PC's. So if we really want to be accurate the only part left that Apple did in fact create is the user interface. The hardware, foundation operating system isn't anything special other than cosmetic/ergonomic design.
Point 3. Macs can an do get viruses. They also account for much of the transport as the users seem to think they are exempt from good practice. They can still transmit them.
iReality
edit: Sorry David Grossman, I didn't read your post until completing mine but a big +1, darn it, could have saved the typing time.
edit2: Yes, 15-20 years ago, apple were so far in front it was a joke. Quality be damned and assimilated by the Gates of hell.
Point 1. Essentially the Mac is a PC now. No, it's not a Mac that runs Windows more a PC made by Apple that runs Windows.
Point 2. The Mac operating system is not the Mac operating system anymore and hasn't been for some time. It's a Unix BSD dist that again also and has for some time run on PC's. So if we really want to be accurate the only part left that Apple did in fact create is the user interface. The hardware, foundation operating system isn't anything special other than cosmetic/ergonomic design.
Point 3. Macs can an do get viruses. They also account for much of the transport as the users seem to think they are exempt from good practice. They can still transmit them.
iReality
edit: Sorry David Grossman, I didn't read your post until completing mine but a big +1, darn it, could have saved the typing time.
edit2: Yes, 15-20 years ago, apple were so far in front it was a joke. Quality be damned and assimilated by the Gates of hell.
and I bet it looks like a laptop you paid $1300 for. You PC users, jealousy is an ugly thing.
Yeah... because white plastic is worth paying an extra $1000 for...
Some people are happy with a tricked out Honda, some people are happy with a Ferrari. Don't be hating us Ferrari drivers.Yeah... because white plastic is worth paying an extra $1000 for...
After doing computer support on everything from DOS 6.0 to Vista and several different derivatives of UNIX, I'd say a big part of why people choose MS instead of OSX (or whatever) is that Windows systems are a) much more available, b) much cheaper, and c) have much more software available. That being said, a lot of the software for Windows (especially the MS operating systems...ESPECIALLY Vista) are typically NEVER bulletproofed - until the next version of Windows comes out. XP's been out for what...5 years? And they're STILL sending out critical hotfixes darn near daily. IMHO, the fact that OSX (and the earlier versions) are essentially UNIX makes them a lot more stable and difficult to hack...that being said, users are typically the security problem that causes viruses/adware, not the system.
As far as hardware goes, Apple does do one thing right w/ video and audio...it goes straight from the card/input to the hard drive, whereas Windows (Intel processors) have to go through the bus, thereby causing latency. I DO record on my XP system, but if I were to have money falling off the tree, I'd likely buy a MAC for that.
As far as hardware goes, Apple does do one thing right w/ video and audio...it goes straight from the card/input to the hard drive, whereas Windows (Intel processors) have to go through the bus, thereby causing latency. I DO record on my XP system, but if I were to have money falling off the tree, I'd likely buy a MAC for that.
Yeah, maybe in another decade, they'll reach a double digit percentage market share!
- Dave
Apple's currently fourth overall. Not bad I'd say.
Note the 31 percent growth compared to Dell's negative 7.1 percent growth and HP with only 6 percent.
Considering all of the others ship with Windows, and Apple is the only one shipping with OS X - ranking fourth with easily the highest growth rate is pretty darn good.
I'd say that's rising popularity - wouldn't you?
Hey Luke73, that's not surprising when you consider your comparing the underdog with the leader. When Dell own the market it's hard for them to gain anymore and for apple to gain share is their only direction possible.
It's a common opinion that the real reason Apple didn't do as well as they could was due to them not opening up their architecture entirely to 3rd party hardware manufacturers. PC's can be made by many Apple chose not to allow it and Jobs was looking for Jobs.
While Windows is by fact and history a far inferior operating system over and over again, Gates is the winning business man. He knew and still knows exactly what he's doing. You'll never beat him at monopoly.
Imo, the smartest thing apple did in recent times was develop the ipod. Many people who won't touch a Mac but dig the ipod may now be saying "hey if the ipod is so good, what's a mac like". I've seen a number of guys buy macs now that would never have in the past and the ipod was their bait. Forget dual boot windows, check out fusion.
Besides, Apple only did what Gates does in the first place. Pirate great ideas, market them, kill small innovative companies and call them their own.
And as said before, the lemmings follow in ignorance.
Imo, other than video editing and styling, the PC is now superior at just about anything you can throw at it. Disagree? Why?
It's a common opinion that the real reason Apple didn't do as well as they could was due to them not opening up their architecture entirely to 3rd party hardware manufacturers. PC's can be made by many Apple chose not to allow it and Jobs was looking for Jobs.
While Windows is by fact and history a far inferior operating system over and over again, Gates is the winning business man. He knew and still knows exactly what he's doing. You'll never beat him at monopoly.
Imo, the smartest thing apple did in recent times was develop the ipod. Many people who won't touch a Mac but dig the ipod may now be saying "hey if the ipod is so good, what's a mac like". I've seen a number of guys buy macs now that would never have in the past and the ipod was their bait. Forget dual boot windows, check out fusion.
Besides, Apple only did what Gates does in the first place. Pirate great ideas, market them, kill small innovative companies and call them their own.
And as said before, the lemmings follow in ignorance.
Imo, other than video editing and styling, the PC is now superior at just about anything you can throw at it. Disagree? Why?
Actually,
For the record, my favourite machine at the moment is an Athlon64 running Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.
I like my two Macs, and also am happy enough running Windows. After all, I'm a Microsoft instructor
As a desktop feel, personally - I like Ubuntu first, OS X second, and Vista third - but hey...that's just me.
One of may favourite apps on OS X is Garage Band. I really enjoy using that. On Ubuntu I use Audacity.
I have ripped my entire CD collection to my OS X Mac mini, and have it sitting in my family room connected to some active monitors. It's our every day music centre. For that purpose I don't believe it has an equal.
For image manipulation, I use the Gimp on Ubuntu (and a little on my MacBook).
For an office suite, I use Neo Office, Open Office, and Microsoft Office on my office desktop PC.
I use Evolution for a mail client (and Groupwise at work
).RhythmBox music player on Ubuntu is the music player I use in my study.
I use VirtualBox for Microsoft MSCE training and demos - I can happily run an Active Directory Domain Controller and a few XP clients concurrently in VirtualBox on my little $1099USD MacBook.
I use Windows XP for database access, email and some office stuff at work and not too much else.
I try not to do too much with Vista. I don't like it much.
Like I said - everybody should just use what they like, and let others do the same. Multi platform computing is a piece of cake these days. There are a multitude of good options.
To this statement, I totally agree. Now Apple can pour that influx of cash into R&D for even better machines and more stores in order to take over the world with the sexiest machines on earth!!!! hehe
Things would be completely different if Apple did NOT develop the iPod. It would be a company on the verge of bankruptcy like it was a decade ago.
hey the only computer that I've NEVER had any problems with is my powerbook that i've had for four years. i mean it never freezes, never gets messed up, nothing.
but my ipod broke pretty quick. don't put it in your back pocket and have a jam/play along on a concrete floor. ipod flys out, hits floor, no more tunes.
but my ipod broke pretty quick. don't put it in your back pocket and have a jam/play along on a concrete floor. ipod flys out, hits floor, no more tunes.
Some people are happy with a tricked out Honda, some people are happy with a Ferrari. Don't be hating us Ferrari drivers.
Haha, I don't think of you as a Ferrari driver. I think of you as an Aston Martin driver - you spend a lot of money and get very little for it
You haven't seen many Aston's recently have you?Haha, I don't think of you as a Ferrari driver. I think of you as an Aston Martin driver - you spend a lot of money and get very little for it
I would happily drive an Aston over a Ferrari any day!
Actually,
For the record, my favourite machine at the moment is an Athlon64 running Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.
I like my two Macs, and also am happy enough running Windows. After all, I'm a Microsoft instructor
As a desktop feel, personally - I like Ubuntu first, OS X second, and Vista third - but hey...that's just me.
One of may favourite apps on OS X is Garage Band. I really enjoy using that. On Ubuntu I use Audacity.
I have ripped my entire CD collection to my OS X Mac mini, and have it sitting in my family room connected to some active monitors. It's our every day music centre. For that purpose I don't believe it has an equal.
For image manipulation, I use the Gimp on Ubuntu (and a little on my MacBook).
For an office suite, I use Neo Office, Open Office, and Microsoft Office on my office desktop PC.
I use Evolution for a mail client (and Groupwise at work
RhythmBox music player on Ubuntu is the music player I use in my study.
I use VirtualBox for Microsoft MSCE training and demos - I can happily run an Active Directory Domain Controller and a few XP clients concurrently in VirtualBox on my little $1099USD MacBook.
I use Windows XP for database access, email and some office stuff at work and not too much else.
I try not to do too much with Vista. I don't like it much.
Like I said - everybody should just use what they like, and let others do the same. Multi platform computing is a piece of cake these days. There are a multitude of good options.
+1, The new AMDs especially. All crap aside a good dist of Linux running on and AMD is possibly the most superior technically. I believe the Suse 64b running on the AMD was in fact the fastest PC based combination alive. That was also tested with its debugging code still in.
Go figure......
You haven't seen many Aston's recently have you?
I would happily drive an Aston over a Ferrari any day!
I've seen enough to know what kind of person would choose one over a Ferrari
Never owned an Apple machine. Haven't used once since the Apple II's back in grade school.
I have no reason to hate them. PC's, I can understand the frustrations, which are mostly due to the great inconsistency of Windows versions. New versions of Windows are almost always crap at first. I've been lucky, I had a Win 98 system and now XP. Minimal problems. And I love the fact that I was able to put together my own PC kit, selecting all the components, case, etc.
I have no reason to hate them. PC's, I can understand the frustrations, which are mostly due to the great inconsistency of Windows versions. New versions of Windows are almost always crap at first. I've been lucky, I had a Win 98 system and now XP. Minimal problems. And I love the fact that I was able to put together my own PC kit, selecting all the components, case, etc.
I am going to get a new HP machine,next month,but only because its more affordable and Sams Club has a very good deal on a very hot PC.I will get a mac laptop later on when its a wise financial decision.The main thing that pisses me off about Microsoft is how Mr. gates is ripping off alot of folk by coming out with a new OS every 4to5 yrs.A lot of major companies are having to shell out big dollars to stay current.I loath (Pista) thats what I call it-because its made alot of Professional techs very angry.Besides PC's crash alot more Macs because of theyre signal path design(RISK VS SISK) and compatibilitly issues are solved with running the Parallels program. Be Blessed Chaz.
