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Anyone else just HATE Apple?

1. Bought a Nano when I was new to MP3 players... Still have it.

(Stayed with the brand since they've been good so far...)

2. Upgraded to a 30 GB and had it replaced under warranty so I could sell the replacement.

3. Upgraded again to the 80 GB "Classic" and love it.

I've never been on a Mac and don't plan to. Aside from MP3 players, I've never bought their stuff.
 
Gotta love how easy it is to feel the iPod thumbwheel with a slap-bass callussed thumb. That click is especially easy to hear when you're driving down the highway and can't look down to see where you are in the menu.

It's such a fine line between clever and stupid. What would have been so bad about push buttons for navigation? :rolleyes:

The next MP3 player I get will not be an iPod.

- Dave
 
Gotta love how easy it is to feel the iPod thumbwheel with a slap-bass callussed thumb. That click is especially easy to hear when you're driving down the highway and can't look down to see where you are in the menu.

It's such a fine line between clever and stupid. What would have been so bad about push buttons for navigation? :rolleyes:

The next MP3 player I get will not be an iPod.

- Dave

It is rather easy to use the click wheel while driving. Push button for navigation? Well it would have made them just like every other mp3 player on the market. Gotta do something to stand out. The touch is even easier to use.

lowsound
 
None of them have ever broken... if that's what you were wondering. :)
Well it was worth a shot ;)

I asked because pretty much all my friends have their iPods break every 1 or 2 years. It's just kind of the norm and nobody thinks about it twice anymore. I've never bought an mp3 player (but have used other people's iPods a lot) and if I ever do, it won't be an iPod. They seem to be the most unreliable things ever.
 
It is rather easy to use the click wheel while driving. Push button for navigation? Well it would have made them just like every other mp3 player on the market. Gotta do something to stand out. The touch is even easier to use.

lowsound
The touch is cool, yes. Easier to use? debatable. But when you finally get to the exact area and you are trying to select one specific song/artist/whatever, it takes seemingly forever to actually land on that specific thing. I always find myself scrolling back and forth over what I'm trying to select, usually with a couple accidental selections thrown in for good measure.
 
The touch is cool, yes. Easier to use? debatable. But when you finally get to the exact area and you are trying to select one specific song/artist/whatever, it takes seemingly forever to actually land on that specific thing. I always find myself scrolling back and forth over what I'm trying to select, usually with a couple accidental selections thrown in for good measure.

I have almost never had that happen to me. Just set the click wheel to the lowest sensitivity and you are set.

lowsound
 
I'm at an interesting point, because I feel I might like a Mac for audio recording and multimedia, but I hate the Mac interface so, so much.

I've got so many little problems with the Mac. Who the hell made a one-click mouse standard for the Mac? I had no idea how much I used right click until I had to write a paper on a Mac. That wasn't the end of my problems though.

I was just typing along and suddenly my paper gets sucked down into the task bar in a rather cartoonish style while making this 'WooooOOOOOPP" sound. I'm just staring at the computer dumbfounded as to where my paper just went, when a friend comes up and asks what happened. I explain and he's like "oh, it's easy to fix, you just do this", then he bends his hands around awkwardly on the keyboard like a spider. Suddenly my paper jets out from the task bar with the same "WooooOOOOPP" sound.

I don't know what it is about the standard mac keyboard, but I think it's slightly smaller than any keyboard I've ever used, so typing was a little clumsy. I'm convinced that the Mac was designed to be the Anti-PC, as evidenced by the location of the "Close Window" button. WHY, WHY put it where the minimize button is on a PC? I finish my paper and go to minimize, then suddenly my paper disappears, but this time without the cartoon effects. Argghhhhh.

Oh yeah, when I click on a program, I want it to start. I don't want it to sit there on the desktop bouncing up and down, mocking me.

User friendly my ass.


My only compliment is that my band recorded a song on a Mac using Logic Pro 7. It made us sound slick. I can't, however, justify buying a Mac on that alone.
 
Well, i love my pc with XP, and im more than happy with it.
I have several PC's with XP. It has been very stable, it does everything I need it to do and I spend pretty much zero time fiddling with the OS. I can't remember the last time I had an OS crash. My Mac at work crashed more times in the first few months I tried to use it (before I decided that I'd rather chew glass) than all of my PC's put together in the past 5 years.

- Dave
 
I'm at an interesting point, because I feel I might like a Mac for audio recording and multimedia, but I hate the Mac interface so, so much.
People seem to think that Macs are so much better for recording (not saying you do). However, just the other day a friend was telling me how he can do remote recording with his Mac at a whopping 8 channels at 44kHz/16bits. Meanwhile, with my 4 year old Sony VAIO PC running XP, I can record 14 channels at 96kHz/24bits. That's only due to a limitation of the optical connection between my Focusrite OctoPre and MOTU 828 mkII. At 44kHz, I can record 18 channels. This is my portable recording rig too.

- Dave
 
I'm convinced that the Mac was designed to be the Anti-PC
Sooo true. Everything is backwards and there seems to be no reason for it.

I guess my beef is really with the Mac format, which bothers me incredibly, and not their reliability and what not, as I haven't experienced firsthand due to me never having owned an Apple product. It does however seem to me that their stuff is less reliable, so I'm going to continue to fight with you guys about that just to hammer home my point that I don't like Macs. :D
 
Sooo true. Everything is backwards and there seems to be no reason for it.

I guess my beef is really with the Mac format, which bothers me incredibly, and not their reliability and what not, as I haven't experienced firsthand due to me never having owned an Apple product. It does however seem to me that their stuff is less reliable, so I'm going to continue to fight with you guys about that just to hammer home my point that I don't like Macs. :D

That doesn't make sense. Who are you comparing the reliability to? Apple is the company that makes all Macintosh computers, but there a multitude of different companies that make computers running on Windows, all with different perceived reliabilities I'm sure.

The fact that you care so much about this topic leads me to believe that you're just jealous of my virus-free, spyware-free, easy to use, fast as **** computer. :cool:
 
Firstly, a disclaimer. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool convert to the Cult of Mac. Won't ever go back to Windows. I've even been known to wear blue jeans and a black polo-neck whenever there's a Steve Jobs keynote speech. Not quite got as far as the Apple tattoo yet though. :D

All these arguments about what can and can't be done on a Mac are moot now anyway, since you can run Windows at full speed with the advent of Parallels, Boot Camp, etc (although if you want to play games, Boot Camp is pretty much the only way to go). Parallels rules - nothing like using coherence mode to run IE on your Mac desktop! I, unfortunately, do have to use Windows from time to time, for testing websites in IE7 and running in IIS. I can now do this directly from OS X using Parallels. I have all the benefits of using a Mac, along with all the benefits of using Windows, all on one desktop, with none of the downsides.

Want a right-click? Plug in a two-button mouse. All recent desktop Macs come with the Mighty Mouse which has a right mouse button anyway, and the current laptops all have right-click functionality by putting two fingers on the trackpad and clicking. Want to fiddle with the hardware? Dead easy with a Mac Pro/Power Mac, and not that hard with an iMac or MacBook. Want low-level OS control via the command line? It's Unix... you've got all the low-level OS control you'll ever need.

OS X does have a learning curve - you can't pile in and expect to use it the same way you use Windows. And it does have its quirks. But when you learn them, you can work far more effortlessly. It's hard to explain, but, once you "get it", it's like a layer of frustration that you'd just grown to accept using Windows is gone, kinda like everything seems to get done with one less action on your part.

My 2p's worth, anyway. :)
 
I've also noticed that because PC users tend to be inside their machines a lot, they have a much higher degree of ability to open up their computers and solve hardware problems. Apples break less often, but when they do, most of the Apple users I know don't have a clue how to get inside their machine and troubleshoot - they haven't had to do it and as a result, they're pretty helpless.

that's an odd pov... did you buy a car that breaks down a lot to make you a better mechanic also?
 

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