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#321
Unrepresented said:
Massive disparities between rich and everyone else is a symptom of an unhealthy society. That goes for feudal serfs and kings or hungry people in the streets while the rich live in opulence. It's an insurmountable distance and is actively maintained by those with power.
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I just don't see that here in the US.

In fact from what I see everyone in the US, pretty much, has access to a hot shower in the morning, breakfast and access to a public school education.

This is just for starters but with the availability of help buying food I don't see too many people being hungry. In fact It's my opinion that too much food is an issue in the US. And from what I hear the US is the second most obese nation on the planet.

As far as those in power maintaining any "insurmountable distance" I think that you'll find that Bill Gates has donated BILLIONS of dollars to poor people to give them a big boost in education. Many other wealthy people have donated much of their assets to helping other get ahead.

I've never seen a case of any rich person attempting to keep any poor person down. My observation is that's it's the other around. Like the example I mentioned along with generous people like Mark Zuckerberg the exact opposite is what I've noticed.

But that's just me.
 
#322
BawanaRik said:
I just don't see that here in the US.

In fact from what I see everyone in the US, pretty much, has access to a hot shower in the morning, breakfast and access to a public school education.

This is just for starters but with the availability of help buying food I don't see too many people being hungry. In fact It's my opinion that too much food is an issue in the US. And from what I hear the US is the second most obese nation on the planet.

As far as those in power maintaining any "insurmountable distance" I think that you'll find that Bill Gates has donated BILLIONS of dollars to poor people to give them a big boost in education. Many other wealthy people have donated much of their assets to helping other get ahead.

I've never seen a case of any rich person attempting to keep any poor person down. My observation is that's it's the other around. Like the example I mentioned along with generous people like Mark Zuckerberg the exact opposite is what I've noticed.

But that's just me.
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Serfs and slaves were fed and housed.
 
#323
BawanaRik said:
I could live great like that.
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Yeah, no kiddin'. There were some retired police and retired fire department who retired and would do contract work. Needless to say it brought enough attention to the situation to put an end to things like spiking.

On the flipside, I knew a few pharmacists and nurses who accumulated a decent retirement, only to lose most of that when the market collapsed. They'll likely work an extra decade and not come close to what they would have had.
 
#324
spade2you said:
Yeah, no kiddin'. There were some retired police and retired fire department who retired and would do contract work. Needless to say it brought enough attention to the situation to put an end to things like spiking.

On the flipside, I knew a few pharmacists and nurses who accumulated a decent retirement, only to lose most of that when the market collapsed. They'll likely work an extra decade and not come close to what they would have had.
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I agree with you that defined benefits are superior to personal investment for most people.
 
#325
BawanaRik said:
I just don't see that here in the US.

In fact from what I see everyone in the US, pretty much, has access to a hot shower in the morning, breakfast and access to a public school education.

This is just for starters but with the availability of help buying food I don't see too many people being hungry. In fact It's my opinion that too much food is an issue in the US. And from what I hear the US is the second most obese nation on the planet.

As far as those in power maintaining any "insurmountable distance" I think that you'll find that Bill Gates has donated BILLIONS of dollars to poor people to give them a big boost in education. Many other wealthy people have donated much of their assets to helping other get ahead.

I've never seen a case of any rich person attempting to keep any poor person down. My observation is that's it's the other around. Like the example I mentioned along with generous people like Mark Zuckerberg the exact opposite is what I've noticed.

But that's just me.
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Hunger is actually a big issue in this country - for a variety of reasons
 
#329
BawanaRik said:
I doubt if many retired CEOs get that much of a pension when they retire.

They need to make more so they can save for retirement
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Considering the average CEO pay was $9.6 million last year, if the average CEO saved their income from just one year they'd have nearly a century of $100K/year to live off.

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#331
fmoore200 said:
Hunger is actually a big issue in this country - for a variety of reasons
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I feel this is a vague statement without anything to back it up. If I was in college I would have gotten a failing grade handing in something like this.

At work I would get chewed out, at the least.

I'd like to see you try harder on this. Back it up with facts and put some meat on it. How many people are starving every day? The facts are the US if the second most obese nation on the planet. How dose that fit in with you statement? Your statement needs a lot more to be considered. And how does tie in with the union theme? Do unions cause more hungry by requiring poor people to pay more for food

If you need help ask me or another TB member.

Good Luck
 
#333
Unrepresented said:
Considering the average CEO pay was $9.6 million last year, if the average CEO saved their income from just one year they'd have nearly a century of $100K/year to live off.

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I seem to be able to dispute your figure. Imagine that!

it looks like you're way off. Did you jsut count the top ten CEOs?

That's not fair!
 
#334
LiquidMidnight said:
Keep in mind that having an opinion and defending an opinion are not the same thing.
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I'm trying to find a point here and I can't. This post seems like an attempt to sow discord and upset me with an overly edited series of "Quotes" that have been edited to the point where they do not reflect my original meaning.

It's my opinion this is wrong.

Please go back and edit this post to include a complete quote of my entire posts, not snippets meant to sow discord.

Anything less is misleading.

You wouldn't want to do that now, would you?
 
#335
BawanaRik said:
I feel this is a vague statement without anything to back it up. If I was in college I would have gotten a failing grade handing in something like this.

At work I would get chewed out, at the least.

I'd like to see you try harder on this. Back it up with facts and put some meat on it. How many people are starving every day? The facts are the US if the second most obese nation on the planet. How dose that fit in with you statement? Your statement needs a lot more to be considered. And how does tie in with the union theme? Do unions cause more hungry by requiring poor people to pay more for food

If you need help ask me or another TB member.

Good Luck
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Lol

It was in response to you saying we are the most well fed nation in the world, a "fact"that you came to the conclusion to by what you "see everyday".

Now I don't take internet forums as seriously as you do, obviously, so I apologize if my writing and research is not up to APA standards, but I'll end with this:

Just because we are the most obese nation, does that automatically mean that there isn't a hunger issue?
 
#336
BawanaRik said:
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I seem to be able to dispute your figure. Imagine that!

it looks like you're way off. Did you jsut count the top ten CEOs?

That's not fair!
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It's not my number, it's a number that was generated by the AP. The article discloses how that number was reached. Your link is just a number on a page with no further explanation of how it was created or what was included or discluded from that number.

I'll stick with my number.
 
#337
Unrepresented said:
It's not my number, it's a number that was generated by the AP. The article discloses how that number was reached. Your link is just a number on a page with no further explanation of how it was created or what was included or discluded from that number.

I'll stick with my number.
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And I'll stick with mine. The numbers like the one you quote are generally false. They include only the top ten CEOs or some other ridiculous criteria that ensure they generate discord.

If you were to include the criteria you might gain a point or two.

But likely that would dilute the shock value of your figure.
 
#338
fmoore200 said:
Lol

It was in response to you saying we are the most well fed nation in the world, a "fact"that you came to the conclusion to by what you "see everyday".

Now I don't take internet forums as seriously as you do, obviously, so I apologize if my writing and research is not up to APA standards, but I'll end with this:

Just because we are the most obese nation, does that automatically mean that there isn't a hunger issue?
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There are others who feel like I do
 
#340
BawanaRik said:
And I'll stick with mine. The numbers like the one you quote are generally false. They include only the top ten CEOs or some other ridiculous criteria that ensure they generate discord.

If you were to include the criteria you might gain a point or two.

But likely that would dilute the shock value of your figure.
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Again, not my number. It's published by a reputable source. At least read the link if you doubt the veracity.
 

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