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aria pro II rickenbacker

buy it or leave it

  • buy it

    Votes: 60 85.7%
  • leave it

    Votes: 10 14.3%

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    70
No clue as to Aria serial numbering, maybe theres a database out there somewhere. Are you still concerned its not a "genuine" Aria? The confusing fact is that multiple companies sold Ric copies under different badges, Fernandes, Greco, etc, some clearly made in the same factories and simply re-badged for sale. Im guessing that verifying a particular serial number will be nearly impossible, but maybe an Aria Expert will.chime in. Whatever the provenance, it's among the higher end of "Lawsuit" Ric copies, i havent seen much better, and that one is in particularly good condition. Buy it or save your money and get a genuine Ric.
 
thanks for advices,i was really interesated and i really wanted to buy but i talk today with the guy who sell the bass after i read some bad reviews (sell fake instruments and fools pepole) about him and he was a jerk and refuse to send a demo with the bass to hear it and make a idea about it and he lies me about some things and make a bad impresion who make me to leave it, i feel bad for that, was a great bass but the guy who sell it wasn t and that made me to make this decision
 
And the neck could be a nightmare too. Save your money and get a real Ric.
Necks can be nightmarish on real Rics, too! Mine needed constant truss rod tweaking, two or three times a year.

I grew up loving Rickenbackers for over 30 years, right up until the time I actually got one. Aesthetically beautiful instrument, but functionally - not good. Not good at all. Luckily I sold it used for the same price I paid new, about six years earlier.

The Aria one under discussion here definitely looks worth checking out, given the make and the quality of most Japanese instruments of the day. I’d expect it to be as good or better than a real one.
 
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thanks for advices,i was really interesated and i really wanted to buy but i talk today with the guy who sell the bass after i read some bad reviews (sell fake instruments and fools pepole) about him and he was a jerk and refuse to send a demo with the bass to hear it and make a idea about it and he lies me about some things and make a bad impresion who make me to leave it, i feel bad for that, was a great bass but the guy who sell it wasn t and that made me to make this decision

Bummer that the seller wasn’t worth the risk. Hopefully you will come across another that you can make yours.
 
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i found online a aria pro II rickenbacker (made in japan, 1975)and i don't know if i should buy it or not
a old guy sell it, he had a lot of expensive guitars for sell(rickenbackers, american fenders, japanese basses), but i'm not sure if that bass is a genuine aria pro ii rickenbacker and i don t know how to check it and test it to see the
authenticity, some advice please? here are some photo with guitar, the price is 800$(something like that)
(ps sorry for my english i m not a native speaker and i learn it from friends and internet)


A lot of people here like counterfeit Rickenbackers, I don't. Besides the lower price I think a lot of people like to stick it to JH :laugh: whom I've always found to be a gentleman trying to protect his company from rip offs.
 
Necks can be nightmarish on real Rics, too! Mine needed constant truss rod tweaking, two or three times a year.

I grew up loving Rickenbackers for over 30 years, right up until the time I actually got one. Aesthetically beautiful instrument, but functionally - not good. Not good at all. Luckily I sold it used for the same price I paid new, about six years earlier.

The Aria one under discussion here definitely looks worth checking out, given the make and the quality of most Japanese instruments of the day. I’d expect it to be as good or better than a real one.
Just my opinion. I was looking for an Aria Ripper clone once and found a Gibson Grabber sitting in a pawn shop covered in filth for $200. I cleaned it up and played on it for a while and sold it. Just not my thing. I like to tinker with Basses and the Fenders lend themselves to this. Lots of replacement parts and upgrades avail. I would buy a Ric or a clone if one presented itself as a feasible purchase.
 
The Aria one under discussion here definitely looks worth checking out, given the make and the quality of most Japanese instruments of the day. I’d expect it to be as good or better than a real one.
I wouldn't.

I do. Most of them are better than the real McCoy
When you say "most of them", what do you base that on?

I've never seen or played a faker which was as good as a real Ric.
They are fun, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here...

FYI, here's some of the fakers I've had/have.

faker - collection - 200123.jpg
 
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The quality of the build on the Aria and other neck through high end clones was on par with contemporary 4001 of the same era, which were a little hit or miss. There isnt anything other than custom builds now that is even a pale shadow of the current Rics. That era came and went. The current crop of Chinese clones varies wildly in quality, from half decent to complete junk. Ironically, one of the better and most complete surveys of the "Lawsuit" Ric copies used to be on the Rickresource Forum, but they appear to have taken it down.
 
I wouldn't.


When you say "most of them", what do you base that on?

I've never seen or played a faker which was as good as a real Ric.
They are fun, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here...

FYI, here's some of the fakers I've had/have.

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One of the five Greco/Ibby Ricks I had was a dog. I could easily up that first number with regard to the Ricks I've had. Bar the 4001CS and a '73 4001, the rest all had issues that necessitated me getting shot of them.

Fact.
 
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The quality of the build on the Aria and other neck through high end clones was on par with contemporary 4001 of the same era, which were a little hit or miss. There isnt anything other than custom builds now that is even a pale shadow of the current Rics. That era came and went. The current crop of Chinese clones varies wildly in quality, from half decent to complete junk. Ironically, one of the better and most complete surveys of the "Lawsuit" Ric copies used to be on the Rickresource Forum, but they appear to have taken it down.
I've got 70's Rics and none of the 70's fakers I've had were on a par.

One of the five Greco/Ibby Ricks I had was a dog. I could easily up that first number with regard to the Ricks I've had. Bar the 4001CS and a '73 4001, the rest all had issues that necessitated me getting shot of them.
Fact.
That's opinion.
 
Then you played the wrong faker. I owned a 78’ 4001 as my first bass and played an Aria that belonged to a band mate, so I got to make a direct A/B comparison over a few months. The fit and finish were comparable, with the same tiny finish flaws you’d expect on any production instrument. I thought the bridge was better on the Ric, not in function, but quality of the chrome job. The tuners were better on the Aria, less “lash” in the gears. The neck on my 4001 was thinner, but not all that stable. The nut on the Ric was a little rough, unpolished Bakelite, don’t know what the Aria was made of, but it was polished and well finished. Ric STILL leaves them rough, unfinished, and cut high. The tone was very similar, but the output balance between neck and bridge was more even in the Aria. That’s been a problem with Rics from day one, still is. Given the variation in quality between 4001 of the era, it’s hard to arrive at a direct comparison between any single Ric and any other. One of my buddies had a 78’ 4001 he bought a month after me that was a complete dog, it simply Would Not hold a given neck relief. He sold it and got a Fender, go figure. The 70’s in general were not a great decade for American manufacturing, which is why the Japanese started eating our lunch in consumer electronics, cars, and in some cases, guitars. The higher end of the Lawsuit fakers were fully comparable to Rics spotty QC the era, if they hadn’t been, Hall wouldn’t have bothered pursuing an expensive series of lawsuits to quash them.
 
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i found online a aria pro II rickenbacker (made in japan, 1975)and i don't know if i should buy it or not
a old guy sell it, he had a lot of expensive guitars for sell(rickenbackers, american fenders, japanese basses), but i'm not sure if that bass is a genuine aria pro ii rickenbacker and i don t know how to check it and test it to see the
authenticity, some advice please? here are some photo with guitar, the price is 800$(something like that)
(ps sorry for my english i m not a native speaker and i learn it from friends and internet)

If you don't buy it, I will. :bassist::hyper:
 
Then you played the wrong faker. I owned a 78’ 4001 as my first bass and played an Aria that belonged to a band mate, so I got to make a direct A/B comparison over a few months. The fit and finish were comparable, with the same tiny finish flaws you’d expect on any production instrument. I thought the bridge was better on the Ric, not in function, but quality of the chrome job. The tuners were better on the Aria, less “lash” in the gears. The neck on my 4001 was thinner, but not all that stable. The nut on the Ric was a little rough, unpolished Bakelite, don’t know what the Aria was made of, but it was polished and well finished. Ric STILL leaves them rough, unfinished, and cut high. The tone was very similar, but the output balance between neck and bridge was more even in the Aria. That’s been a problem with Rics from day one, still is. Given the variation in quality between 4001 of the era, it’s hard to arrive at a direct comparison between any single Ric and any other. One of my buddies had a 78’ 4001 he bought a month after me that was a complete dog, it simply Would Not hold a given neck relief. He sold it and got a Fender, go figure. The 70’s in general were not a great decade for American manufacturing, which is why the Japanese started eating our lunch in consumer electronics, cars, and in some cases, guitars. The higher end of the Lawsuit fakers were fully comparable to Rics spotty QC the era, if they hadn’t been, Hall wouldn’t have bothered pursuing an expensive series of lawsuits to quash them.
I can only speak to my experience, as opposed to others opinions.
I've bought 9 Rics in my time, spanning 6 decades, and only offloaded one; not because it had issues but because I didn't gel with it (a 4003/5 and the neck was too wide for my liking).
I'm also an active faker advocate, so I'm not putting them down, but I'm still waiting to see one in the same class as a real Ric.