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ASH vs. ALDER - PART II

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  • Clip C matches Clip A

    Votes: 41 43.6%

  • Clip C matches Clip B

    Votes: 51 54.3%

  • Ramble On was recorded with a different bass on each verse

    Votes: 41 43.6%

  • Ramble On was recorded with the same bass on each verse

    Votes: 34 36.2%
  • Total voters
    94
#47
Joebone said:
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As for Ramble On, most hear the difference, and I agree. I'll pop that the first verse has more attack and midrange, and quicker decay, and therefore is ash.

But, of course, I could be entirely full of shyte.

Here's the real deal - regardless of what you think your audience hears, which one makes you feel more expressive and musical? THAT'S the one you should favor...
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+1

Great test! The "pick which 2 out of these 3 are the same" is the way to go. I'm gonna hold back on making too many comments right now, as to not bias others. I will say that it was MUCH harder hearing the difference in the ABC clips with the rest of the band playing (real world situation) compared with the 1A vs. 1B clips in the Part I thread.

The difference in verse one compared to verse two in Ramble On was easier to hear. Someone else also said that you could get a similar change with right hand position (closer to the bridge in verse one), which I agree with. Also, differences in left hand technique could account for the tone difference (more string-finger and fret noise). I would say verse one was Ash and verse two was alder.

Thanks for doing this experiment! Nice job. Should make for more great discussion.
 
#55
Honestly, I can't even tell the difference in sound when a guitarist I'm playing with breaks a string. Both times it's happened over the past couple of months I noticed that with my eyes, not my ears. But I did notice a singer mispronouncing a word in a language I don't speak on one of those songs. Haha.
 
#56
I think A and C match

on ramble on, the first verse has more 'noise' when you move your left hand over the strings, but other than that they sound the same to me, so I picked the same bass on each verse
 
#59
Being a professional musician, but a noob bassist, I was surprised about the Ramble On clip being so short... I only heard one fragment of a one-take song. As for A-B-C... when getting to C, I forgot what difference I thought I'd heard between A and B, and I didn't have the courage to go over it again. There's also a less pleasant detail to consider: I wasn't really thrilled by sound of the bass parts: with all respect to experienced bassists (and, again, being quite a noob as far as bass is concerned), the basses sounded quite neutral to me, while I'm trying to get more "relief" into my playing.

Indeed, I'm not really into compression either. :hiding:

So I didn't vote, but I'm curious about the upcoming debate! :hyper:
 
#60
Changed my mind and did go back to the clips, but this time beginning with the C clip. In the B clip the bass seems to have a bit more of a "twang" in it, but otherwise... Well, thinking of what I said earlier about "Ramble On": A=C and one bass in "Ramble On". Voilà.
 

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