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If you think it’s a problem, it’s a problem. You were very smart about it (sold stuff, broke even), but the opportunity cost of time is real. So what to do?

first, don’t listen to the enablers on TB ;)

second, spend some time thinking about what you’ve learned with these purchases. Indeed, that’s what I call this kind of thing - learning. So, hopefully you now know better what you like and dislike etc… it wasn’t a waste of time!! :)

after the analysis above, you can be more picky going forward. Many use the policy “one in one out” so we don’t grow the herd in the process. But you will learn more as you go, and replacing what doesn’t serve you well is perfectly fine. You just gotta be brutally honest with yourself - what is it that you want/like?

note that I emphasize “want”. Like many here, I used to fool myself that I needed a variety of basses/gear, different tools for different jobs, etc. BS. You determine what you “need” via what you want and like. Very few session musicians have a legit claim to need more than one bass.

The “want” perspective also focuses you on you and your preferences. The problem with reading forums and what others like is that, well, you learn what worked for them. For me, it turned out that I have a very narrow set of preferences (and, obviously, they’re different from others’ preferences)

Which brings me to my last point: be very picky going forward. I’m picky to the point of running another risk (ie, getting into custom builds), but 99% of TB threads and ads don’t tempt me. Most basses have a critical flaw given my preferences (eg too heavy, wrong pickups, nut too narrow, etc.), but they’re great for someone else…

So I’m mostly “just looking at the menu” these days. Occasionally I “sample” stuff at a store, but mostly I just quickly find that critical flaw and move on. Oh, and I forgot to add: my current gear is the benchmark. With one in one out policy, I’m simply looking to find a bass that works better than one of the current ones.

hope any of that helps you. And again, don’t listen to the enablers here :smug:
 
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There is a thing called "gear accumulation syndrome" and it's out there in every field of interest. Fly fishing, vintage motorbikes, you name it. It may just be a guy thing, I don't know. I am a recovering vintage Ducati owner and the rush of finding the right part on eBay never gets old. It's been kind of rough financially for me the past several years, but I always found cash to get the perfect part, but then I would wonder where I would put my bikes if my work dried up and I became homeless. I'm not kidding. That's when I realized it was a sickness and started to unload. Someone earlier said to stop trolling sites for more stuff and he's absolutely right. That said, it was fun at the time and you didn't lose money so......
 
I used to be in the scene and was trying to "make it". Still am, but I joined the trades so now I'm not broke anymore and still enjoy music every day! I enjoy my career and still have time to invest hours of my time every day into the bass. Hate to say it man but music is like 10x harder to succeed in than being an electrician.

edit: just saw that youre 39... Ive seen younger apprentices out there. Not too late though.
I'm an apprentice electrician and a guy I work with just started in the trade at 50 something years old. It's never too late to start something if you put the effort in and really want it. I'm about half that age but I walked away from a profitable career path to do this because I knew I would hate it- best thing I ever did

To the OP- I admire your humility. Don't feel bad about the past, being able to experience those instruments led you to where you are today. I would sell absolutely everything you don't need and make the most of one instrument that really means something to you. Getting intimately familiar with one or two basses enables you to be a better player than buying and selling something new periodically and relearning the feel of the instrument each time. Get it out of your head that you "need" the next new bass because I guarantee you can make do with what you have.
 
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If you think it’s a problem, it’s a problem. You were very smart about it (sold stuff, broke even), but the opportunity cost of time is real. So what to do?

first, don’t listen to the enablers on TB ;)

second, spend some time thinking about what you’ve learned with these purchases. Indeed, that’s what I call this kind of thing - learning. So, hopefully you now know better what you like and dislike etc… it wasn’t a waste of time!! :)

after the analysis above, you can be more picky going forward. Many use the policy “one in one out” so we don’t grow the herd in the process. But you will learn more as you go, and replacing what doesn’t serve you well is perfectly fine. You just gotta be brutally honest with yourself - what is it that you want/like?

note that I emphasize “want”. Like many here, I used to fool myself that I needed a variety of basses/gear, different tools for different jobs, etc. BS. You determine what you “need” via what you want and like. Very few session musicians have a legit claim to need more than one bass.

The “want” perspective also focuses you on you and your preferences. The problem with reading forums and what others like is that, well, you learn what worked for them. For me, it turned out that I have a very narrow set of preferences (and, obviously, they’re different from others’ preferences)

Which brings me to my last point: be very picky going forward. I’m picky to the point of running another risk (ie, getting into custom builds), but 99% of TB threads and ads don’t tempt me. Most basses have a critical flaw given my preferences (eg too heavy, wrong pickups, nut too narrow, etc.), but they’re great for someone else…

So I’m mostly “just looking at the menu” these days. Occasionally I “sample” stuff at a store, but mostly I just quickly find that critical flaw and move on. Oh, and I forgot to add: my current gear is the benchmark. With one in one out policy, I’m simply looking to find a bass that works better than one of the current ones.

hope any of that helps you. And again, don’t listen to the enablers here :smug:


Duly noted!
Especially the parts about not listening to enablers & the fact that whatever worked for someone else might not work for me.

I do need to take time off the internet. Except for job hunting!

I think that my current set up will be versatile enough. I need to sit with those instruments until they become comfortable, instead of finding excuses to hunt for smthg else...
 
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It looks like you now have enough experience and know what the market has to offer. It's time for you to make choices. Pick one, build a relationship with it, learn to accept its sharp edges and enjoy the things it does best, and eventually marry it.

Most Signature instruments are modeled on what the gods could afford at the time. (Usually this was a second-hand instrument they were able to snatch up for a bargain.)
 
There is a thing called "gear accumulation syndrome" and it's out there in every field of interest. Fly fishing, vintage motorbikes, you name it. It may just be a guy thing, I don't know. I am a recovering vintage Ducati owner and the rush of finding the right part on eBay never gets old. It's been kind of rough financially for me the past several years, but I always found cash to get the perfect part, but then I would wonder where I would put my bikes if my work dried up and I became homeless. I'm not kidding. That's when I realized it was a sickness and started to unload. Someone earlier said to stop trolling sites for more stuff and he's absolutely right. That said, it was fun at the time and you didn't lose money so......


Very true.. i was actually homeless at some point during covid. My boss allowed me to sleep in one of our classrooms at the language academy. The number of students dropped dramatically as many refused to go online for lessons... and gradually i had to let go the RMI Quantum, the BTB846SC, the fretless Baphomet...
 
It looks like you now have enough experience and know what the market has to offer. It's time for you to make choices. Pick one, build a relationship with it, learn to accept its sharp edges and enjoy the things it does best, and eventually marry it.

Most Signature instruments are modeled on what the gods could afford at the time. (Usually this was a second-hand instrument they were able to snatch up for a bargain.)

THAT'S EXACTLY IT!
That's what i meant a minute ago writing that i needed to sit longer with those instruments instead of hunting!!

Thanks !
 
Dear Fellaz & Fellazettes,

My name is neil, i am 39y/o & i think i might have more disorders than what therapist says i have.
Over the years i have owned these basses & guitars:

Pre-hiatus:
- Cort Action Bass (first bass in 2003, sold 2007?)
- RavenWest RWG 7-Strings (sold 2011)
- Harley Benton Acoustic Fretless 5 (sold 2012)
- Washburn Taurus T25 (sold 2012)
- Rockbass Corvette 5 (sold 2012)
- Squier VM telecaster Custom (?)
- some Ibanez hollowbody guitar (?)

Post-hiatus:
- Yamaha RBX 270 FL (Sold 2015)
- Squier Vintage Modified Jazz Bass NT (traded away 2017)
- Warwick Corvette Std (Sold 2016)
- ESP-LTD B205SMFL (Sold 2017)
- Fame Baphomet 6 (Sold 2018)
- Squier Vintage Modified Precision 5 with Nordstand (?) PU (sold 2018)
- Ibanez BTB1206e Prestige (Sold 2018)
- Warwick Rockbass Starbass (Sold February 2019)
- Warwick Rockbass Corvette 5 Active (Sold December 2018)
- Squier Vintage Modified PJ Lake Placid Blue (Sold May 2019)
- Cort C6 Plus ZBMH OTAB (Sold June 2019)
- Ibanez SR306EB-WK (Sold July 2019)
- Ibanez TMB30 Mint Green (Sold January 2020)
- Squier Classic Vibe Precision '50s Lake Placid Blue (Sold March 2020)
- Vintage V74MRJP Fretless (sold May 2020)
- Harley Benton BZ-6000, (sold June 2020),
- Harley Benton E-1335 II sunburst, (gtr, given away mid 2021)
- ESP-LTD B-206SM (sold September 2020)
- Harley Benton JB-75MN Black Vintage Series (sold October 2020)
- Ibanez AGBV205A (sold December 2020)
- Sire P7 5-string Swamp Ash 1st Gen (swapped for BTB846SC, December 2020)
- Ibanez ASV10A (gtr, swapped for BTB846SC, December 2020)
- Ibanez SR506 (traded for the fretless Fame - Baphomet IV, February 2021)
- Ibanez AS83-STE Artcore Expressionist (gtr, sold March 2021)
- RMI Quantum 6 Dominic Di Piazza Signature (sold October 2021)
- Ibanez BTB846SC-DTL (sold January 2022)
- Harley Benton CST-24HB (gtr, sold January 2022)
- Fretless Fame Baphomet (sold January 2022)
- Harley Benton PB-20 SBK (sold @ October 2022)
- Squier Classic Vibe Precision Bass LRL OWT (sold February 2022)
- Squier Bronco BK (Upgraded with dual rail humbucker, new pots, cap & wiring, sold April 2022)
- Squier Classic Vibe Mustang SFG (Labella 760F-MUS) (sold June2022)
- Harley Benton HB-35 Plus - Metallic Blue (gtr, sold August 2022)
- Harley Benton Shorty P-bass (D'Addario Nylon Tapewounds, sold August 2022)
- Sire U5 NT (sold august 2022)
- Ibanez SRMD200-BKF (with Labella 760F-MUS Flats, sold October 2022)
- Squier Mini Precision Bass (sold February 2023)
- Sire P5 Alder MLG w/ SPB-3 PU (sold February 2023)

Returned to seller cuz arrived damaged:
- Squier CV Mustang LPB w/ racing stripes (2022)
- Squier Affinity Jaguar H LPB (2022)
- Greg Bennett RLB-4 (2018)
- Sire V7 1st Gen VWH (2019)
- D'Angelico semi hollow 35" (2019)
- Sire V7 Alder 5ST-BK (2018)

And i might have forgotten some... i have managed not to ruin myself over the years & i believe that, money-wise, i've broken even. But i have wasted so much time researching basses, watching/reading reviews, taking pics of my instruments to post for sale ads... talking to buyers who didn't buy, selles that didn't sell...

And i am starting to worry.

I live in Southern Spain, earn barely enough to face bills, gas etc... i have been trying to "make it" in the local music scene, & i do get to perform & record every once in a while, so i do need decent gear although being broke is a constant in my life that is pretty limiting, obviously.

I have made a decision to stick to the gear i have now: a Harley Benton MV-4MSB (passive, short scale, P/J bass, will put flats on it when money allows it), a Harley Benton TE-90FLT (only guitar i own, pretty happy with it as is, & i don't usually offer my services as a guitarist, so only use it to record @ home through a multi-FX pedal). I will soon recieve an ESP-LTD Stream 204 that will be my only active, humbucker, 34" bass.

But...
1) i have no idea if i'll manage or what i should do to stick to that decision &
2) i still feel an enormous amount of guilt & shame when i see the list above... i feel stupid for mis-investing my time & energy in all that researching, buying & selling... most of the basses i've owned were great basses that were good at doing their job. Some of them i miss now...

Those of U who are in a similar situation, how do U handle things? And how do U cope with that feeling of shame?

I am sorry my friend, I am the complete opposite. I’ve purchased 4 basses since 1974. I kept one bass ( 74 Ric 4001) that was largely unplayed for 34 before I sold it. The last bass I bought 8 years ago was purchased only because I needed a 5 string.

Personally, I see no problem with trading gear. You are breaking even financially, so why not if that is what you like to do? I’ve known people with more destructive passions in life.

What I would recommend what you could do is to keep a bass or too for professional purposes, like a favorite 4 string and a 5 string, the rest use for with your trading passion.

Best wishes.
 
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Yes, exactly!
I mean, i don't collect, i have sold off almost everything, haven't lost any money in the process and am planning on sticking to two basses and a guitar... but i am looking for advice on how to do exactly what U say: being tempted by other instruments that could be within reach if i sold this or that...

1. Recognize that you are comfortable with what you have, and that a new toy won't make you a better player.

2. Recognize that you will lose money in the transaction, never mind the value of your time.

3. Sit down with someone responsible, and set a budget. Include associated expenses (travel/fuel costs), so you know what you can spend - on food, shelter, clothes, toys, etc.

4. If you can't afford to pay for something, without having to sell something off, you can't afford it.
 
Something else you'll notice if you cut back on internet / smartphone / doomscrolling is your memory will improve. Or better said: you'll be able to learn more new things by converting short-term memories to long-term memories.

If you're constantly bombarding your brain with new info, it can't process anything important and convert it to long-term storage:



Just got around to watching that video! Really interesting & informative.. i need to make a change indeed.. deeper than what i initially thought posting my OP
 
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1. Recognize that you are comfortable with what you have, and that a new toy won't make you a better player.

2. Recognize that you will lose money in the transaction, never mind the value of your time.

3. Sit down with someone responsible, and set a budget. Include associated expenses (travel/fuel costs), so you know what you can spend - on food, shelter, clothes, toys, etc.

4. If you can't afford to pay for something, without having to sell something off, you can't afford it.


Yes! See?!?! Right there! Solutions!
I have screen captured most of the suggestions or lightbulb considerations in this thread for me to follow from now on!

Thanks a lot for this group intervention ! I am very grateful!
 
I think you're headed in the right direction, making changes to your life both behaviorally and professionally. Once you are settled into a new career, I would start setting up a bass fund with a preset spending limit. Instead of looking for cheap used deals on low end equipment, you've had enough experience with enough gear to narrow down what you like and what you don't like. Look for your goldilocks bass. By that I mean a bass that feels and plays just right for you.

I wouldn't worry about how it sounds as much as how it feels in your hands. That's all stuff that you can change. But get yourself the best quality, best playing instrument you can afford and hold onto it
 
You're in good company.
"Comfort shopping" doesn't turn up very many deep hits on Google, but it is definitely a thing!
One phrase that stuck out to me was: "Sad people buy more."
Volunteering, spending more time with family and ironically playing gigs seems to help curb my GAS cravings. Those things help fill that empty space that would otherwise get filled by buying stuff. It is probably not a coincidence that those things also get me away from the damn computer!
 
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Amen to that! I am trying to achieve.. see it as a New Year's Resolution in March and i al asking U all how U counter temptation.. how U manage to focus and not desire something other than what U already have...
I hope you can come up with an answer. My way to keep from gassing for other basses may not work for you. I ended up building my own fretted 6 and fretless 6 and they are the only ones I want to play. So no more temptations. Amps on the other hand...:rollno:
 
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No need to feel shame at all. Most of us who play or make music go on some kind of journey where we explore the tools and options available. it's part of the process. If you've reach a point that you're happy with, all of those past instruments helped you get there. Feel lucky that you've had that opportunity to try them all :-)
 
Dear Fellaz & Fellazettes,

My name is neil, i am 39y/o & i think i might have more disorders than what therapist says i have.
Over the years i have owned these basses & guitars:

Pre-hiatus:
- Cort Action Bass (first bass in 2003, sold 2007?)
- RavenWest RWG 7-Strings (sold 2011)
- Harley Benton Acoustic Fretless 5 (sold 2012)
- Washburn Taurus T25 (sold 2012)
- Rockbass Corvette 5 (sold 2012)
- Squier VM telecaster Custom (?)
- some Ibanez hollowbody guitar (?)

Post-hiatus:
- Yamaha RBX 270 FL (Sold 2015)
- Squier Vintage Modified Jazz Bass NT (traded away 2017)
- Warwick Corvette Std (Sold 2016)
- ESP-LTD B205SMFL (Sold 2017)
- Fame Baphomet 6 (Sold 2018)
- Squier Vintage Modified Precision 5 with Nordstand (?) PU (sold 2018)
- Ibanez BTB1206e Prestige (Sold 2018)
- Warwick Rockbass Starbass (Sold February 2019)
- Warwick Rockbass Corvette 5 Active (Sold December 2018)
- Squier Vintage Modified PJ Lake Placid Blue (Sold May 2019)
- Cort C6 Plus ZBMH OTAB (Sold June 2019)
- Ibanez SR306EB-WK (Sold July 2019)
- Ibanez TMB30 Mint Green (Sold January 2020)
- Squier Classic Vibe Precision '50s Lake Placid Blue (Sold March 2020)
- Vintage V74MRJP Fretless (sold May 2020)
- Harley Benton BZ-6000, (sold June 2020),
- Harley Benton E-1335 II sunburst, (gtr, given away mid 2021)
- ESP-LTD B-206SM (sold September 2020)
- Harley Benton JB-75MN Black Vintage Series (sold October 2020)
- Ibanez AGBV205A (sold December 2020)
- Sire P7 5-string Swamp Ash 1st Gen (swapped for BTB846SC, December 2020)
- Ibanez ASV10A (gtr, swapped for BTB846SC, December 2020)
- Ibanez SR506 (traded for the fretless Fame - Baphomet IV, February 2021)
- Ibanez AS83-STE Artcore Expressionist (gtr, sold March 2021)
- RMI Quantum 6 Dominic Di Piazza Signature (sold October 2021)
- Ibanez BTB846SC-DTL (sold January 2022)
- Harley Benton CST-24HB (gtr, sold January 2022)
- Fretless Fame Baphomet (sold January 2022)
- Harley Benton PB-20 SBK (sold @ October 2022)
- Squier Classic Vibe Precision Bass LRL OWT (sold February 2022)
- Squier Bronco BK (Upgraded with dual rail humbucker, new pots, cap & wiring, sold April 2022)
- Squier Classic Vibe Mustang SFG (Labella 760F-MUS) (sold June2022)
- Harley Benton HB-35 Plus - Metallic Blue (gtr, sold August 2022)
- Harley Benton Shorty P-bass (D'Addario Nylon Tapewounds, sold August 2022)
- Sire U5 NT (sold august 2022)
- Ibanez SRMD200-BKF (with Labella 760F-MUS Flats, sold October 2022)
- Squier Mini Precision Bass (sold February 2023)
- Sire P5 Alder MLG w/ SPB-3 PU (sold February 2023)

Returned to seller cuz arrived damaged:
- Squier CV Mustang LPB w/ racing stripes (2022)
- Squier Affinity Jaguar H LPB (2022)
- Greg Bennett RLB-4 (2018)
- Sire V7 1st Gen VWH (2019)
- D'Angelico semi hollow 35" (2019)
- Sire V7 Alder 5ST-BK (2018)

And i might have forgotten some... i have managed not to ruin myself over the years & i believe that, money-wise, i've broken even. But i have wasted so much time researching basses, watching/reading reviews, taking pics of my instruments to post for sale ads... talking to buyers who didn't buy, selles that didn't sell...

And i am starting to worry.

I live in Southern Spain, earn barely enough to face bills, gas etc... i have been trying to "make it" in the local music scene, & i do get to perform & record every once in a while, so i do need decent gear although being broke is a constant in my life that is pretty limiting, obviously.

I have made a decision to stick to the gear i have now: a Harley Benton MV-4MSB (passive, short scale, P/J bass, will put flats on it when money allows it), a Harley Benton TE-90FLT (only guitar i own, pretty happy with it as is, & i don't usually offer my services as a guitarist, so only use it to record @ home through a multi-FX pedal). I will soon recieve an ESP-LTD Stream 204 that will be my only active, humbucker, 34" bass.

But...
1) i have no idea if i'll manage or what i should do to stick to that decision &
2) i still feel an enormous amount of guilt & shame when i see the list above... i feel stupid for mis-investing my time & energy in all that researching, buying & selling... most of the basses i've owned were great basses that were good at doing their job. Some of them i miss now...

Those of U who are in a similar situation, how do U handle things? And how do U cope with that feeling of shame?

I suggest you schedule a meeting with your psychologist ASAP. It is possible to be happy with fewer basses. Very happy! I used to own several and now have one. I am getting one more for a different sound, but it's all I need. You can do it too. Good luck!