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Buying and selling 40 basses over a couple of years sounds burdensome to me. I’ve wrestled with all sorts of unhealthy behaviors and relationships with people and things. Little obsessions, big obsessions. It sounds like you have had a rough patch lately. But it also sounds like you are heeding your gut instincts by questioning the motivation behind all this buying and selling. You’d probably save yourself a lot of time and money and energy if you switched to yoga or jogging.
 
I have seven guitars - all for professional use. 2 telecasters 2 acoustics 2 hollow bodies. One strat. I have two basses. A four and a five. I only buy when I see Anne’s and the purchase will make its money back in gigs and or teaching. I’ve been a professional since my twenties so I buy a new guitar every few years but only if I can justify it. Both my basses do exactly what I need them to do so while I’d live a fender jazz or a p I can’t justify it. When I can I’ll see.

see a need not see Anne’s.
 
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Mate I am with you on all of this but the major underlying issue that seems common here is shame. I face this stuff hugely within my life but I also understand why and I feel it helps to manage it better. There is so much positive things to come from having music as a pastime that it is so cruel that we find these ways to sabotage the positivity. That is part of what makes things so difficult with things like this. Reframing and recognizing triggers are big for me and putting in rules like sleeping on any purchases and selling something before buying something else helps. I dont know if this is a helpful statement but one thing I truly do believe is that everyone in this world has coping mechanisms that can be unbalanced at times. Every one. Drugs, sex, internet, shopping, gaming, food, alchohol, partying, work, cars. Everyone has something that we use to cope and disassociate from the tough things in our world. Recognising and being grateful for the things we do have is another very powerful tool to help us to work to use things things for enrichment especially as something as useful as music gear.


I wish you all the best I dont have all the answers and struggle with all of this daily and more but struggle on we must and try and find and celebrate those times of joy and look for them as much as we can!

Some great advice in this article and many many others like it online!
The Cycle of Shame and Self-Destructive Behavior: How to Break It
 
I agree with a lot of the others here: spend less time online and looking at, searching for and reading about gear. I spend a fair amount of time on TalkBass and looking at music related things I find it relaxing and I enjoy it. But I know that if I channeled that time into practicing and playing I would be a much better player. Don't get me wrong, I have learned about and discovered a lot of nice equipment that I would have otherwise not known about if I wasn't on here.

I find I am most productive when I am busy. Either learning and transcribing new songs and/or preparing for gigs. Then there is no time to waste looking for stuff; I just have to learn stuff!

Find a couple of basses that are reliable and you can be happy with and then concentrate on music.
 
Dear Fellaz & Fellazettes,

My name is neil, i am 39y/o & i think i might have more disorders than what therapist says i have.
Over the years i have owned these basses & guitars:

Pre-hiatus:
- Cort Action Bass (first bass in 2003, sold 2007?)
- RavenWest RWG 7-Strings (sold 2011)
- Harley Benton Acoustic Fretless 5 (sold 2012)
- Washburn Taurus T25 (sold 2012)
- Rockbass Corvette 5 (sold 2012)
- Squier VM telecaster Custom (?)
- some Ibanez hollowbody guitar (?)

Post-hiatus:
- Yamaha RBX 270 FL (Sold 2015)
- Squier Vintage Modified Jazz Bass NT (traded away 2017)
- Warwick Corvette Std (Sold 2016)
- ESP-LTD B205SMFL (Sold 2017)
- Fame Baphomet 6 (Sold 2018)
- Squier Vintage Modified Precision 5 with Nordstand (?) PU (sold 2018)
- Ibanez BTB1206e Prestige (Sold 2018)
- Warwick Rockbass Starbass (Sold February 2019)
- Warwick Rockbass Corvette 5 Active (Sold December 2018)
- Squier Vintage Modified PJ Lake Placid Blue (Sold May 2019)
- Cort C6 Plus ZBMH OTAB (Sold June 2019)
- Ibanez SR306EB-WK (Sold July 2019)
- Ibanez TMB30 Mint Green (Sold January 2020)
- Squier Classic Vibe Precision '50s Lake Placid Blue (Sold March 2020)
- Vintage V74MRJP Fretless (sold May 2020)
- Harley Benton BZ-6000, (sold June 2020),
- Harley Benton E-1335 II sunburst, (gtr, given away mid 2021)
- ESP-LTD B-206SM (sold September 2020)
- Harley Benton JB-75MN Black Vintage Series (sold October 2020)
- Ibanez AGBV205A (sold December 2020)
- Sire P7 5-string Swamp Ash 1st Gen (swapped for BTB846SC, December 2020)
- Ibanez ASV10A (gtr, swapped for BTB846SC, December 2020)
- Ibanez SR506 (traded for the fretless Fame - Baphomet IV, February 2021)
- Ibanez AS83-STE Artcore Expressionist (gtr, sold March 2021)
- RMI Quantum 6 Dominic Di Piazza Signature (sold October 2021)
- Ibanez BTB846SC-DTL (sold January 2022)
- Harley Benton CST-24HB (gtr, sold January 2022)
- Fretless Fame Baphomet (sold January 2022)
- Harley Benton PB-20 SBK (sold @ October 2022)
- Squier Classic Vibe Precision Bass LRL OWT (sold February 2022)
- Squier Bronco BK (Upgraded with dual rail humbucker, new pots, cap & wiring, sold April 2022)
- Squier Classic Vibe Mustang SFG (Labella 760F-MUS) (sold June2022)
- Harley Benton HB-35 Plus - Metallic Blue (gtr, sold August 2022)
- Harley Benton Shorty P-bass (D'Addario Nylon Tapewounds, sold August 2022)
- Sire U5 NT (sold august 2022)
- Ibanez SRMD200-BKF (with Labella 760F-MUS Flats, sold October 2022)
- Squier Mini Precision Bass (sold February 2023)
- Sire P5 Alder MLG w/ SPB-3 PU (sold February 2023)

Returned to seller cuz arrived damaged:
- Squier CV Mustang LPB w/ racing stripes (2022)
- Squier Affinity Jaguar H LPB (2022)
- Greg Bennett RLB-4 (2018)
- Sire V7 1st Gen VWH (2019)
- D'Angelico semi hollow 35" (2019)
- Sire V7 Alder 5ST-BK (2018)

And i might have forgotten some... i have managed not to ruin myself over the years & i believe that, money-wise, i've broken even. But i have wasted so much time researching basses, watching/reading reviews, taking pics of my instruments to post for sale ads... talking to buyers who didn't buy, selles that didn't sell...

And i am starting to worry.

I live in Southern Spain, earn barely enough to face bills, gas etc... i have been trying to "make it" in the local music scene, & i do get to perform & record every once in a while, so i do need decent gear although being broke is a constant in my life that is pretty limiting, obviously.

I have made a decision to stick to the gear i have now: a Harley Benton MV-4MSB (passive, short scale, P/J bass, will put flats on it when money allows it), a Harley Benton TE-90FLT (only guitar i own, pretty happy with it as is, & i don't usually offer my services as a guitarist, so only use it to record @ home through a multi-FX pedal). I will soon recieve an ESP-LTD Stream 204 that will be my only active, humbucker, 34" bass.

But...
1) i have no idea if i'll manage or what i should do to stick to that decision &
2) i still feel an enormous amount of guilt & shame when i see the list above... i feel stupid for mis-investing my time & energy in all that researching, buying & selling... most of the basses i've owned were great basses that were good at doing their job. Some of them i miss now...

Those of U who are in a similar situation, how do U handle things? And how do U cope with that feeling of shame?
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Hmmmm…
In a way, it’s no big deal buy stuff, collect stuff, sell stuff, why not? That said……
No good going broke over it.
Could be a waste of time, instead of working on something more worthwhile.

I really don’t like the way humanity is using up the world creating trash heaps of junk, but basses usually don’t end up in the trash. Mostly.
 
Anytime you get a negative feeling? Practice your instrument. Take the negative and turn into a positive. Relationship with a significant other ended? Play the instrument. Anxiety? Play the bass. Shame? Play more bass. I suppose going out for a run or a bike ride, hike to a nice river/stream, mountain etc. These things are all positive for most people. Anytime you feel bad, do something else to stop your brain from dwelling on that negative feeling. Do something you love and that makes you feel good. You have nothing to be shamed for based on that introduction. You have tenacity. There's no shame in that.
 
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Your physical health and mental health are most important.It’s not about your gear or your music it is all about you. As long as you are OK nothing else matters. If you feel you are not OK, get some professional help. I did and it made all the difference. Take care.

You guys are my professional help! Thank you! (And yes i am still seeing my therapist at 11AM!)
 
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Yay! Another "Stop me before I bass again" thread. The journey to finding the right bass is not unlike dating (in fact, it's EXACTLY like dating). Some marry their first love and live happily ever after. Some date a lot before they find the right one. Some have a number of long term relationships punctuated by short term dalliances in between. Some have a main squeeze and one or many on the side (I'm a combination of the last two). As circumstances change, needs and desires may change. And then, of course, there's amps...

Seriously, though, if the predilection is compulsive purchasing and obsessive searching for the "holy grail" a 12 step approach may help. Replacing the focus to "buying gear" or "spending" makes it easy to tailor the program to your own needs. There are literally dozens of 12 step programs now, one can surely suit you.

Bets of luck. BTW, I'm a bit older than you and have cycled through maybe 3 times as many basses. Not a contest, just making the point that you're not alone. If there's a name for it (and there is: Gear Acquisition Syndrome, or "GAS") then you can be certain you're not the only one who's got it (notice it's not "Gear RETENTION Syndrome").

Yes, i am aware i am not the only one who is impacted negatively by GAS. You have had 3 times as many, but maybe in your case it was a happy hunt that wasn’t constantly on Ur mind. Maybe it wasn’t a symptom of just being unhappy/unsatisfied in life. Maybe U just bought & tried & sold because U had a clear plan/idea of what U wanted to have & that was the only MO towards it!
The parallel U make with romantic relationships is stricking though. It's true that my longest relationships have been around 2 years and a half & in between i've had shorter relationships.

I have recieved a tremendous amount of fantastic advice here & started correcting certain things. I just need the Ltd. Stream 204 to arrive & will get rid of the second hand app!
 
I have seven guitars - all for professional use. 2 telecasters 2 acoustics 2 hollow bodies. One strat. I have two basses. A four and a five. I only buy when I see Anne’s and the purchase will make its money back in gigs and or teaching. I’ve been a professional since my twenties so I buy a new guitar every few years but only if I can justify it. Both my basses do exactly what I need them to do so while I’d live a fender jazz or a p I can’t justify it. When I can I’ll see.

Yes, i agree with that philosophy!
A lot of people here have pointed out that my basses were entry-level/cheap but only the last couple of years have i been playing with pros & recording stuff that was actually going to be put out there, & having low income so i would have time to practice, compose&record my own stuff plus learn other people's material for live gigs wasn't giving me:
1) the funds to get expensive instruments
2) the mental justification of such a purchase.
3) and i would often hear about people who'd gig their Squiers, Harley Bentons, etc... so i thought that as long as i put in the work, i would get good enough on any instrument & make them work in a more demanding, pro context.
 
What were you looking for? Were you searching for ‘the one’ or was it just a thrill to hit the buy button? Do you even understand why you bought and then sold so many basses?
Knowing why is of considerable benefit in losing a bad behaviour pattern. From that self knowledge you can plan a strategy and move in the right direction. Self examination is vital for growth. You’ve got bad behaviour pattern. Sure, but WHY?

I am not entirely sure. I guess i was unhappy, would read up a positive review here or on Basschat, or YT... and then would become obsessed with a specific model, would compulsively gather information, track one down on the used market & negociate a fair price... and that on repeat, probably to mask off other problems in life. U know? Think about gear so that the brain doesn't have time to think about other things that are maybe scarier if/when faced?
 
Anytime you get a negative feeling? Practice your instrument. Take the negative and turn into a positive. Relationship with a significant other ended? Play the instrument. Anxiety? Play the bass. Shame? Play more bass. I suppose going out for a run or a bike ride, hike to a nice river/stream, mountain etc. These things are all positive for most people. Anytime you feel bad, do something else to stop your brain from dwelling on that negative feeling. Do something you love and that makes you feel good. You have nothing to be shamed for based on that introduction. You have tenacity. There's no shame in that.

Yes true. Funny U'd mention ending a relationship with significant other as i have been single for a little over a week again (and she is the singer in both my upcoming gigs looool)
 
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This is all i have left.. if i sell anything else, i will have to get better at beatboxing if i want to keep making music...

Ok sorry for missunderstanding your situation.

But then it's great, you've done 90% of the work.

Think of it that way:
- These 2 instruments are the result of a long selection,
- Either you're happy with them, and this should end your quest.
- Or you're not 100% happy with them, and you should stop buying guitars online anyway, because it would prove that this selection process is inefficient.
 
As others mentioned, impulse-control disorder and compulsive buying disorder are real things. I think it is important you recognize you have a problem and you have to develop strategies to deal with it. In this regard, professional help is most likely needed.
You don't have to fix everything in one day, but take baby steps and things will be way better. Just remember we all have problems, we all feel terrible at times. But things usually really suck before they get good. So, keep going, do the right thing, and trust life :thumbsup:
 
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