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Asking her father

Let me follow up with this then: What if Your ex wife's father had not changed his mind?

why do you need to cling so readily to hypotheticals, I don't know what I would have done, I know what I did.

You are the one who came in here guns blazing calling everyone who disagrees with your ancient patriarchal worldview ********. "Respect" L.M.F.A.O.
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again the TB lack or reading comprehension. glad you guys are all so enlightened. Its obvious by your language you have a certain view point and anyone who doesn't share in your world view is lesser, glad I got to become the target of your hostility.

advil will bring down that inflammation
 
why do you need to cling so readily to hypotheticals, I don't know what I would have done, I know what I did.


again the TB lack or reading comprehension. glad you guys are all so enlightened. Its obvious by your language you have a certain view point and anyone who doesn't share in your world view is lesser, glad I got to become the target of your hostility.

advil will bring down that inflammation
again the TB lack or reading comprehension. glad you guys are all so enlightened. Its obvious by your language you have a certain view point and anyone who doesn't share in your world view is lesser, glad I got to become the target of your hostility.

advil will bring down that inflammation
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I find some agreement in the arguments both directions - seems to vary a lot based on situational expectations. No, those who don't ask aren't necessarily inconsiderate - gee, where would that leave guys where the g/fs dad is dead or otherwise indesposed? A hypothetical with no judgement attached to it.

Ed-ios on this one Amigos!
 
I find some agreement in the arguments both directions - seems to vary a lot based on situational expectations. No, those who don't ask aren't necessarily inconsiderate - gee, where would that leave guys where the g/fs dad is dead or otherwise indesposed? A hypothetical with no judgement attached to it.

Ed-ios on this one Amigos!
Eh, my brother-in-law asked my mom since my dad is out of the picture.
 
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So what if daddy is a raging psycho alcoholic who routinely beats his wife and kids? I think we're forgetting that in many cases the father isn't worthy of respect to begin with.

If this was the case I wouldn't be concerned with respecting the father so it wouldn't matter. Honestly if he did say no then I'd have to go against his wishes, his opinion isn't going to stop my love. Like I had said before it's not really about asking for permission, it's about asking for their blessing and support. When I proposed I spoke with her dad man to man first then spoke with her mom, dad, and brother together and spoke with my parents about it. After she said yes then she also spoke with my family about it with and without me. You're not buying cattle, you're gaining a family.
 
I dig how when guys don't have the guts to stand up straight, look Dad in the eye, and tell him you want to marry his daughter, they all of a sudden become "champions of womens rights".

It's just a show of respect and can go a long way towards having a good relationship with your future in-laws. It goes along with Dad walking her down the aisle to you. It's a symbolic gesture, doesn't imply transfer of property.

Men know what sort of stuff we like women to do to us, and it can be uncomfortable for them to imagine their daughters doing these things. It's just ensuring him you will treat her with love and respect. Get over yourselves. ;)
 
So if you want to do away with tradition completely, why even bother with a ceremony? I mean, you would be expected to wear shoes and a clean undershirt. Is it really worth it?
Her dad's got no money, so who cares what he thinks and whether we disrespect him or not.

So you think it is all so old school and out of style and what morons even thought it was a good idea? Okay, call me back in 50 years and we'll have this conversation about how old school and stupid everything was in 2014.
 
ooooohhhhhhh. this is gonna get fun. Gotta go get some popcorn.
meh, fictional late night bonks of the mother of a guy who makes fictional calls to fictional fathers regarding fictional bonking of fictional daughters. Considering he hasn't personally sullied the gene pool it's all fictional rhetoric. But hey, got room in the cave for me to meditate?
 
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Does anyone else find the practice of asking the father of your girlfriend permission to propose to his daughter as disrespectful to the girl you are interested in? It strikes me as reducing the girl to the status of being a personal possession of the father.

It's a tradition. When it comes to tradition, some families are full of it.

If you are planning on surprising her with the question, then speak to her first, then the family. The young lady will know what her family expects of you. Out of respect, it wouldn't hurt to follow her queue.
 
My wife asked me to marry her. Her father wasn't in the picture, so I asked for a marital blessing from her mother. In a Civic. In a Safeway parking lot.

If her father had been around, I likely would have wanted his blessing - not permission - as I'd prefer kin relations to be positive.
 
meh, fictional late night bonks of the mother of a guy who makes fictional calls to fictional fathers regarding fictional bonking of fictional daughters. Considering he hasn't personally sullied the gene pool it's all fictional rhetoric. But hey, got room in the cave for me to meditate?
You will have to ask my dad if it is okay for us to share a cave. :cigar:
 
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