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AudioKinesis Cabs Part VI...

Kevin, your TC112 is a first-generation v1, 4-ohm cab. That means the top switch is the horn kill switch, and the bottom switch is the attenuator switch (top end switchable between 3.5 kHz and 17 kHz).

Duke doesn't make 'em like that anymore, so you have a potential collector's item - if you want to think of it that way. :thumbsup:

MM

P.S. What are "producer switches"?
They were called producer switched because audio engineers would often have a knob on the mixing board that wasn't connected to anything. As enged1 said, sometimes a producer would want more highs or less compression or whatever. The audio engineer would let the producer tweak the knob, claiming that it controlled whatever parameter the producer was trying to change. More often than not, they would trick themselves into hearing a change.

I'm not ashamed to say that I do it occasionally. Often someone will ask for some minor change, and even if I just pretend to change something without actually touching anything, they are usually satisfied. It's more of a "you don't know what you're really asking for" type of situation rather than laziness or trickery. The fact is that most musicians know roughly nothing about production, so it's often a game of soothing their minds while secretly soothing their ears (whether they know it or not).
 
I had a pair but sold the second one (kept my TC112). A pair of H1203s will tear paint off a wall, but I found that I usually don't need the extra volume. Instead if I'm playing a gig where I need a bit more heft I put the TC112 under the H1203. But these days that ends up being a rare gig. A single H1203 will cover a lot of ground unless you're playing in a really loud situation.
 
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I continue to gig the crap out of a single H1203 on almost every gig with no issues. Damn near perfect speaker...

Yeah, my new gig is with a four piece acoustic "singer/songwriter, folk, bluegrass" kinda deal. One 1203, a TH500 and my bass. A one trip load-in is nice! 1203 in one hand, bass in another and TH in camera bag with accessories. Plus, I have all the volume I need.
 
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My buddy in NY has teh TC115.. It sound great.. So smooth...
Im in texas and play in bands that are more guitar oriented. Sometimes they play fairly loud too...
So i was thinking of a TC118 or the Hathor 1855.. I like mids growly. not to smooth but with extended lows.. I occasionally get a pop gig type call. A few slaps here ro there..
Im wondering if the 1855 with be as full and have the volume of a good 410 or is it more.. because like i said i need to play loud at times. Real loud.

DUKE since you are in Texas. Try going to the Dallas International guitar show next spring in Dallas. Its a great networking place.. Im not sure what a small booth costs.. I usually play the whole weekend as House bass player with numerous world known players that fly in to do clinics etc. Its always fun.. and thousands go there.. So if you are in town it might be a cool international show to show up at... Even as an observer and not one to participate ..
 
Kevin, your TC112 is a first-generation v1, 4-ohm cab. That means the top switch is the horn kill switch, and the bottom switch is the attenuator switch (top end switchable between 3.5 kHz and 17 kHz).

Duke doesn't make 'em like that anymore, so you have a potential collector's item - if you want to think of it that way

My 4-ohm v1 TC112 is a collecter's item? When did this happen? :hyper:
 
so. in theory. it can basically cover a gig that one would normally use an 810 to cover ....but also sound more full?

In theory... Better bring big power though to make it really sing. It's really a sub. You would probably want something with PFC like an Itech or similar if power is questionable.

Or you can go with more efficient speakers and get just as loud with normal amps.
 
They were called producer switched because audio engineers would often have a knob on the mixing board that wasn't connected to anything. As enged1 said, sometimes a producer would want more highs or less compression or whatever. The audio engineer would let the producer tweak the knob, claiming that it controlled whatever parameter the producer was trying to change. More often than not, they would trick themselves into hearing a change.

I'm not ashamed to say that I do it occasionally. Often someone will ask for some minor change, and even if I just pretend to change something without actually touching anything, they are usually satisfied. It's more of a "you don't know what you're really asking for" type of situation rather than laziness or trickery. The fact is that most musicians know roughly nothing about production, so it's often a game of soothing their minds while secretly soothing their ears (whether they know it or not).
Did you mean, "most producers know roughly nothing about music"? I could buy either statement.

All my switches do something. I guess I'm a switch short.
 
I own a pair of TC112 cabs and have admittedly never played a Hathor 1855. However, the simple science of that cab is pretty astounding.

The 18" Faital beastie in the 1855 has a vd of something like 1460ccs. Its a 1200w monster with an Xmax of 12.45mm and 98db efficiency. That's up there in the "terrifying amount of air knocking $h!t down " category of displacement. And you've got two 5" drivers pushing as well. Nobody but NOBODY designs and applies better crossovers to provide complete frequency coverage better than Duke.

A typical Eminence loaded 4x10, driven to the point where the voice coils are about to combust, pushes 650-800ccs at best. Depending on the drivers, a low quality 4x10 may put out as little as 400ccs. The 4x10 will no doubt be more efficient and louder with the first dose of watts applied but since power is now relatively cheap and most players are pretty adept at using a volume knob, the 1855 quickly surpasses a 4x10 by leaps and bounds.

You could pump 1000w into the 1855 and witness it pushing back people, chairs, tables, etc. without breaking a sweat whereas an off the shelf 4x10 would be a smoldering pile of ash at half that.
Now, the overall feel, tone, punch, etc. of these cabs (or any cabinet for that matter) is largely subjective and a matter of personal taste but as far as sheer air movement and volume...physics is physics. Will the 1855 work for your needs? Who knows? If its so awesome, why isn't everyone touring with one? People like what they like. Every cab has its niche.

There will always be the discussion of cabinet efficiency versus displacement versus frequency response, overall frequency response curves, horizontal and vertical dispersion characteristics, etc. etc.

Duke is the definitive resource regarding all matters relating to anything dealing with pretty much anything. I'm just a two-bit hack giving his personal opinion.
 
What producers have you been working with?? Haha
None, I think. Depends on who you ask. ;) I'm just a working stiff who gets out to play when he can (all too rarely lately). Just seemed like it might've fit with your statement about the producer switch. Come to think of it, I know very little about production...
 
So as I have been considering my tone/volume goals. And I really want two TC112 or Possibly a TC112 and a Hathor 1203 that I could stack. However, I can't do this with my 4 ohm TC 112 (which as Mystic Michael pointed out is a collector's item). Would anyone on this thread by interested in a straight up trade for a 8 Ohm TC 112? Mine is in mint condition and has a LeCover that I just got. I would also be willing to trade for Hathor, and whatever I can't get on trade I'll just buy new from Duke.