Avatar 212 - Am I expecting too much?

[Downunderwonder]

Crown traditionally require a full line level signal to deliver. A pedal can easily come up short hence the badmouthing lack of oomph.

 

[Rickter]

Crown traditionally require a full line level signal to deliver. A pedal can easily come up short hence the badmouthing lack of oomph.

That might be the case, but the BBE Bmax T is a rackmounted pre. Output voltage shouldn't be an issue.

 

[DWBass]

That might be the case, but the BBE Bmax T is a rackmounted pre. Output voltage shouldn't be an issue.

It's def not an issue for me. If you need more volume, just add another cab. My BMax is not the T type though but it's got plenty of oomph!

 

[Jeb]

I think the 100w 4x12 guitar rig and all that goes along with that to be part of the problem. Dynamics are a wonderful thing and more loud rock players would be wise to consider.

 

[MrBass617]

I know of this driver, but don't know how well the cab will meet thier box volume and port needs Faital Pro 12PR300 12" Mid-bass Speakers - Faital Pro 12PR300 mid-bass speaker and bass 12" speaker that has a lightweight neodymium magnet - Faital Pro 12PR300 600 watt 12" high efficiency of 99dB SPL woofer for all high power mid-bass and bass applications. Faital Pro 12PR300. These are less expensive (and the speakers I have), but the same box requirment questions remain NEO412, NEO212 - Paragon 12", 300W, 16 Ohm, Neodymium Bass Driver - gallien-krueger.com.

I have an Avatar B212 with those drivers, Genz-Benz remnants that Dave at Avatar had for a while. It sounds GREAT! I actually prefer it to my Aguilar GS112 and GS112NT setup. Here are both.

 

[MrBass617]

When my back was still fairly decent and I could load it. I played through a GBE1200 atop an UBER 212. It was more than loud enough for any situation I found myself in. Once jammed with a guitarist who had a Twin cranked and I mean cranked. Pedals in the front end and the amp on 10. Drummer had a big kit played loud but had decent dynamics (unlike the guitarist) The 1200 and the UBER hung in there without breaking a sweat. Rolled on lots of mids. Sounded to my ear way too middy soloed but killed in the mix (mids are a bassist's best friends). Granted the UBER is miles above the Avatar but still 12's are 12's. I think the OP needs to ditch the bmax and get a real pre or just go with a nice head.

Only a little above my Avatar 212. It has the GB Faital 12PR300s in it. Lol.
Pic somewhere in this thread.