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AVRI raised pu poles help!!

To the OP, I purchased the 57 AVRI pickups using the Fender part number and fitted them to an 01 MIM P after listening to lots of sounds clips on line - the result is just what I was looking for, nice deep lows, even enough sound across all strings for me and really clear in the highs. I'm running chrome flats on mine and they seem to be a perfect match to this pickup for my ears.

Flatten the EQ a bit if not already and turn the amp up really loud, with this pickup it seemed to me that I didn't have to drop the low end as much on the EQ as I do with my other bass's at high volume. I did fit some new pots and a 0.1 cap at the same time to copy what is usually matched to the 57 AVRI. Once the pickup is in the ball park height (approx from Fender setup guide) I made fine adjustments by ear rather than eye.

I have not moved my pickups as drastically as you have, on mine the A would be lower and still angled down from level, the D & G would be similar to yours but not quite as much slope, overall this pickup seems to match the neck curvature or whatever but in this P it sounds great, playing with fingers and digging in my strings are not touching the pickup either.

As usual this is going to be one of those subjective things where you like these pickups or you don't - I do, here's a pic of the line up I ended up with - definitely more subtle on the slopes than your setting, the pickups are hot and there is no shortage of signal at this string height either,I thought the original MIM pickups (with ceramic strips on the bottom) were hot but this 57AVRI pickup is at least as loud if not fractionally louder for the same amp settings, less micro-phonics and overall a unique sound that I happen to like, I'm stoked with it as an upgrade and would buy the genuine 57AVRI Bass like yours if one came my way in the future at the right price.

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Hi Williamk,

It would be really great if you could post a follow up to this thread with the results of whatever pickup you change to from the 57AVRI cause there have been a number of threads similar to yours and your title is good for those searching later on.

I was sure there would be plenty of folks shakin their heads an thinkin why do I like the pickup so much, before ordering one I searched TB and read every thread I could find on this pickup set and there was not a lot of love for the raised pole pieces on the A string and that is putting it mildly, anyway I had heard a recording and wanted that sound, it cuts through a band mix better than any of my other bass's and despite the obvious when I installed it and listened getting exactly the sound I was expecting I was immediately wrapped, but then I was upgrading a bass that is not expected to be in the same class as a genuine 57 AVRI.

There seemed to be a solid opinion amongst threads on this subject that the 62 Original replica's are an identical pickup without the raised pole pieces and at the price of them ... , if this is true and you like the sound of your bass otherwise then that would seem a good option, I have a 70's classic MIJ that according to Fender has a pickup 'built to be the same as the 62 American Vintage' and it does not sound at all like the 57 AVRI to me, it has heavier mids and a more grindy tone, sits in a band mix well but different in a nice way as well.

Best of luck with that Bass I'm sure you will be happy once you have swapped the pickups especially getting it for a good price to start with.
 
yes, I'll keep everyone posted. I would just like to make sure that there is no other way around changing the pickups to solve my problem, so I'll try fiddling with the PU height again. These PU's do sound amazing, though, I have to say; I've recorded with them and they sounds FANTASTIC in the mix, with little or no EQ. But you really do hear a difference in volume between the E and the A strings and that really sucks...
 
Hi Williamk, don't know if this helps but for rig setup I am using a GB Shuttle Max 12.0 amp with a 4x10 on each power amp outlet, one is a GB Focus and the other a Warwick WCA411, with the shuttle foot switch I hit the LF boost with the bass that has 57AVRI pickups and I hit the tube switch, the tube pre is set almost flat, clean without overdrive on the tubeand still a click or more down on the low, switching to the 70s P I swap to the FET channel set with more low cut still and drop the LF boost and hit the h.f attack, these are all foot switch choices once the pre's are set, seems like a fiddle around way to switch bass's but it works and while both bass's sound brilliant the 57AVRI pickup has the sound and the 70s P has the neck, in both cases this is marginal i.e love both bass's and the overall sound in a mix, each is different though and there is no fiddling pre's to make em the same.

Bizarre thought but what about taking the pickup out and having someone use a dremel to super carefully drop those poles down for you, the others are all raised anyway and with the covers off this is an engineering exercise - whether that would achieve more than aesthetics I am not qualified to say and it would be at risk of killing that pickup. I won't be trying that with mine cause I like the character of it as is and you may want to keep it stock to swap back in if you ever sell the bass - just a thought.
 
Lots of drama here over the raised A pole pieces :) Just adjust the height until the volume is balanced. I've never had any problem with mine, and I would never press the pole pieces down or swap the pickup -- totally unnecessary.
 
here's what it looks like now that I've played around with the PU height:

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You are totally on the right track and that's more or less how it has to look. Keep playing with it until the volume is balanced across the strings.
 
you are right, but like it is on the picture, the A and E are so damn close that when I dig in hard they touch the strings...yet I feel like the A is as low as its ever gonna get and the E as high as its ever gonna get. The A still sounds punchier than the E...
 
you are right, but like it is on the picture, the A and E are so damn close that when I dig in hard they touch the strings...yet I feel like the A is as low as its ever gonna get and the E as high as its ever gonna get. The A still sounds punchier than the E...

Maybe try some different strings. How does it actually sound in the mix with a band?

Also, you need to lower both pickup coils (all four screws) a bit, they are too close to the strings. If you are having trouble with this, just take it to a decent tech.
 
Maybe try some different strings. How does it actually sound in the mix with a band?

Also, you need to lower both pickup coils (all four screws) a bit, they are too close to the strings. If you are having trouble with this, just take it to a decent tech.

I'll try fiddling a bit more with them. It sounds really fantastic in a band (by far the best bass to record with that I've ever owned!). If the problem persists I'll try new strings.
 
I can't believe how much those pole pieces are raised! I have a 1982 AVRI '57 P Bass. The A pole pieces certainly are raised, but nowhere near in the pictures in this thread. Wow.

Your 82 has flush (with the pickup cover) pole pieces more or less. This op's bass has raised pole pieces (on all four strings). The relative difference between the pole pieces (the A versus the E for example) is the same. I have an 82 also, btw.
 
I have an '83 JV 57-70. I swapped out the pickups, and I'm fine with that. I was wrangling and setting until I realized I had my pickups pretty much like that pic above. I don't want my pickups to look like some Picasso painting.

That's silly, who is going to see it but you and only when you hold at a certain angle and look for it. Yours was a cheaper overseas model with a non-vintage spec'ed pickup. The OP has the real deal.

The pickup in the OP's bass is as good as it gets in the P bass world. No fancy boutique pickup is going to sound any better!
 
yeah, no dremeling or filing please; the poles will get hot and magnetically "die", if they don't shatter or burn through a coil wire first.

and it is not "the way it has always been done with that pickup"; the raised polepieces got ditched pretty quickly back in the day, because it didn't work out so well.

if you like the sound overall, just get a regular fender original '62 pickup; it's the same thing without the unbalanced poles.
 

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