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Baby Sumo

Does anyone here have any experience using the Monster Sumo power amp? I am considering using one with a Grace Design's Felix as the pre-amp. I mostly an upright player but need lots of clean headroom. I have been very happy with my WW MI-400-8 but kind of want to leave that amp at home just because it's irreplaceable these days. I tried a TecAmp Bonafide as a replacement but it didn't come close to the same sort of sound quality.
 
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Does anyone here have any experience using the Monster Sumo power amp? I am considering using one with a Grace Design's Felix as the pre-amp. I mostly an upright player but need lots of clean headroom. I have been very happy with my WW MI-400-8 but kind of want to leave that amp at home these days just because it's irreplaceable these days. I tried a TecAmp Bonafide as a replacement but it didn't come close to the same sort of sound quality.

I have. It’s got clean headroom for days. I was using it with a 1000 watt 8 ohm cab and it didn’t chuff out at all
 

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Yup it’s quiet! I run the gain wide open and use the Shaw pre to control the volume!View attachment 4697686

Beauty thing of the Shaw is that it has a separate volume control for the XLR and the 1/4" outs, so you can have a DI signal to the PA (or IEM system) and one to the power amp and not have to run them at the same volume.
 
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I don't have the LED, but I don't miss it : when switched on the switch on the back glows.
Easy to tell if the amp is on after that :bassist: In the unlikely event of an issue happening with the amp I'll probably go back to the amp and check everything anyways !

I love my Baby Sumo :woot: It powers my Barefaced Big Twin II like a boss.
I do drive it quite hard from the output of the last pedal of my board (EQ with boost, unbalanced signal), and have yet to make it distort.
Pairing it with an EQ last in the chain (with the DI pre-EQ) is the ideal solution for me, with the simple EQ acting as a dedicated preamp meant to tune the amp/can to the room without affecting the FoH signal.

Hey! I'm considering going with a Barefaced Big Baby...and possibly getting a second to go stereo. The Sumo amps won't do stereo right? I'd need one for each cab? Can your set up handle loud rock band practice with ease?
 
Hey! I'm considering going with a Barefaced Big Baby...and possibly getting a second to go stereo. The Sumo amps won't do stereo right? I'd need one for each cab? Can your set up handle loud rock band practice with ease?

they won’t go down to 2ohms if that’s what you mean. Assuming the big baby’s are 4ohms a piece then you would need to get another sumo.

If you could get the big baby’s at 8 ohms then the sumo would be fine.
 
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The Sumo amps won't do stereo right?

There is a dude on here who has a custom stereo amp. I think he just called the Sumo folks and asked them to build it for him.

Start reading at post #133-ish

The switch is a stereo or mono switch it either sums both inputs thru the A channel in mono mode using both outputs or it allows the Power amps to be split between the inputs having output 1 for the A channel and output 2 thru the B channel accordingly.
 
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Hey! I'm considering going with a Barefaced Big Baby...and possibly getting a second to go stereo. The Sumo amps won't do stereo right? I'd need one for each cab? Can your set up handle loud rock band practice with ease?
A bit late, people already answered about the stereo thing.
About my setup being loud enough... It's freaking loud :laugh: The Barefaced BT is super sensitive, and the Baby Sumo delivers ! I usually run it at ~50% on the volume knob, that's plenty enough for our band (with a loud drummer !).
I strongly believe that in my case there would not be that much of a difference between the 600W Baby Sumo and the 1000W Sumo, especially since I'm not maxing out; diminishing returns and all that, I'm quite happy with the smaller compact size of the Baby Sumo :thumbsup:
 
Thanks XLunacy! That's awesome to hear.

Thinking this through...if I had two Barefaced BB3's (in the distant future)...I could connect the two cabs together via 1/4" cable. Then I could just go L and R out of my Line 6 Helix into each cab input, getting stereo. In this set up, the Sumo would power both connected cabs, right? I know there'd be a per cab volume hit...but wanted to make sure it worked.
 
Thanks XLunacy! That's awesome to hear.

Thinking this through...if I had two Barefaced BB3's (in the distant future)...I could connect the two cabs together via 1/4" cable. Then I could just go L and R out of my Line 6 Helix into each cab input, getting stereo. In this set up, the Sumo would power both connected cabs, right? I know there'd be a per cab volume hit...but wanted to make sure it worked.

From what I can tell (admittedly not very familiar with the BB3, but looks like a unpowered cab with standard input and parallel output speakons) you would want to run out from the Helix L and R outputs, and into either 2x separate Sumo power amps (or a single Stereo Sumo with L and R inputs and speaker out) and a have a separate speaker cable between each of the Sumos and each of the BB3s.

If you don't want it to be true stereo (seperate and different signal going to each side), you can run your Helix Left/Mono out to a single Sumo input, then Sumo speaker out into 1 BB3, and another speaker cable from that BB3's parallel output and into the 2nd BB3's speaker input.

That would give you a 4ohm load with 2x 8 ohm BB3s which the Sumo can handle.

Running off of a single mono power amp into 2 different cabs won't get you Stereo, as same signal will be going through both cabs.
 
From what I can tell (admittedly not very familiar with the BB3, but looks like a unpowered cab with standard input and parallel output speakons) you would want to run out from the Helix L and R outputs, and into either 2x separate Sumo power amps (or a single Stereo Sumo with L and R inputs and speaker out) and a have a separate speaker cable between each of the Sumos and each of the BB3s.

If you don't want it to be true stereo (seperate and different signal going to each side), you can run your Helix Left/Mono out to a single Sumo input, then Sumo speaker out into 1 BB3, and another speaker cable from that BB3's parallel output and into the 2nd BB3's speaker input.

That would give you a 4ohm load with 2x 8 ohm BB3s which the Sumo can handle.

Running off of a single mono power amp into 2 different cabs won't get you Stereo, as same signal will be going through both cabs.

Thanks Ghost...didn't realize that signal would end up being non-stereo. Appreciate the help!
 
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