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Baer Amplification Megathread!

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HEY!!!! This L- Shaped Baer stack-O'-plenty is very very cool and intriguing! Any reason not to do that? Me LIKEY! :cool:

pjhandlin said:
Just enough height to the 6" to improve articulation and definition.

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GRoberts said:
HEY!!!! This L- Shaped Baer stack-O'-plenty is very very cool and intriguing! Any reason not to do that? Me LIKEY! :cool:
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I guess the only reason is that it moves those mid drivers out of that sort of line array thing and even farther apart than stacking the cabs in the same orientation. The optimal way to position those mid drivers is the way they are in the ML212... close to each other and in a vertical array (for optimum upper mid spread and least amount of combing, etc.).

However, this is another one of those 'correct on paper' things I believe. I would guess it would slightly impact the even spread of the higher frequencies, but wouldn't be a particularly big deal in live bass guitar backline.

Nice stack!
 
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Since I put these clips up again per request recently, here are the links for the new thread:

(Clips recorded at 'moderate gig volumes' about 30 degrees off axis, about 10 feet from cab with the Zoom Q3 digital recorder).

Clip 1: Nordstrand VP5 (modern voiced ash/maple 5 string passive P Bass with broken in Dunlop Nickel Wounds) through the Streamliner (representative of the 'fat and tubey side of amp voicings) and the Markbass F500 (representative of the more neutral SS side of amp voicings). I unfortunately didn't do a great job gain matching (I record these clips in real time with very little prep, so a bit rough sometimes), so don't overinterpret that difference in volume and fatness between the two heads.

 
#2,025
performing on stage in theater setting for cabaret, music review, theme shows- visually the vertical stack looked too... Vertical

Didn't notice too much difference in mids/ high frequency intelligibility.

On paper, not optimal but in practical real world use it worked quite well.
 
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Eublet said:
The only drawback is that now I'm wondering what all those super fancy modern basses I used to own would sound like with the ML112. :help:
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My skjold sounds killer through the ML112s. I tweak the amps more when I am playing my Lull PJ524. Not really a P guy. Thinking about switching the P pickup to a J, which I had routed for and extra pickguard made, just in case.
 
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In theory, the "L" stack should "split the diff" between "horizontal stack is a bit fat" or "too close to the ground for me" and, "vertical is too tall" or "vertical loses some fat due to coupling loss" kinda thing.

I've never tried it.
 
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Chef said:
In theory, the "L" stack should "split the diff" between "horizontal stack is a bit fat" or "too close to the ground for me" and, "vertical is too tall" or "vertical loses some fat due to coupling loss" kinda thing.

I've never tried it.
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Exactly Chef!!

For high spl I prefer the full vertical stack vs full horizontal.

I only use the L when full horizontal is a bit too thick and fat or if I'm in the mood to try it.

Again I understand that on paper this is not optimal, but then I'm also not handing out frequency plots or dispersion graphs to the audience either.
 
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rpsands said:
Probably get better results turning the bottom of the "L" to the side.
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So turn the bottom cab 90 degrees off axis... So top cab front, bottom cab = side fill, toward drums?

I actually tried it once during setup but didn't gig it that way.

Was greedy and wanted more for myself. Will give it a full test sometime.

I assume this works better 'on paper' for mids or high frequency dispersion?
 
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pjhandlin said:
So turn the bottom cab 90 degrees off axis... So top cab front, bottom cab = side fill, toward drums?

I actually tried it once during setup but didn't gig it that way.

Was greedy and wanted more for myself. Will give it a full test sometime.

I assume this works better 'on paper' for mids or high frequency dispersion?
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Yeah, that would be using a sledgehammer to swat a fly (i.e., doing something quite extreme to fix a relatively trivial issue, as you found). You are fine the way your are.
 

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