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Band so good that they were boring

While I agree with you from a personal taste point of view, there does exist club owners AND patrons who get really pissy with cover bands taking "liberties" with the sacred music of their past... I've long been a fan of "punking", "Lounging" and even "Metallifying" songs to be amusing, but man - do that to the wrong song in front of the wrong person (or even crowd) and you are rather hosed.

Some gigs just want you to fill the void - I like the term "Sonic Wallpaper" - -you play, they pay, you go home with cash in pocket. Kinda like a day job.

Fortunately I've never had to deal with that.
 
The problem with that perspective is - and this is key - you will not get a return gig. If you're just out playing for fun, that's okay... but if you're trying to make a buck, you have to suck it up and play what the man pays you for. Like it's a job.


Because it probably is a job.

Rule of thumb: Pay close attention to who is paying whom.
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Rush, Steve Vai, Umphrees McGee,yngwie malmsteen .....

the technicality is cool for about 5 minutes... then snorezville.

Dream Theater - SOMEONE PLEASE KILL ME :help:

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I was just talking to a guitarist about this the other day, while they are awesomely talented, it's just boring to hear perfect perfection all the time. It loses the human aspect.
 
I kind of agree with this. I do want bands I see live to be tight, and to be good at playing what they play. But I don't want it so polished that it loses the live feeling.


I think part of what makes Live at Leeds such a great album, and what probably made The Who really fun to see live is that, on that record at least, it sounds almost like they're always really close to becoming a train wreck... yet it never actually happens and they keep it together. It doesn't sound like the studio versions of the songs, and it's fun that way.
 
The fact is most people couldn't do them if they wanted to.
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I don't have to and it's about as far from boring as you can get. When was the last time you played an improvised thrash set?


Besides, $300 for one fun set where you're constantly on your toes, playing off of other accomplished musicians is still $300.
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you do have a point. but i get a woody from structure. playing complicated, calculated music makes me happy. especially when it comes to bass. 90% of what i do will be written. in my last band, there were improv spots, but i had a lot to hold together. perfection was fun there.

on guitar its entirely different. i screw around significantly more. random pinch harmonics. playing overhand to piss off my rhythm guitarist. running from one end of the stage to the other. sections of solos are written, others are improved every time.

anything construed as boring about playing scripted music is made up for with our stage presence. we never stop moving. i couldnt be audio wall paper. i couldnt play ANYTHING live with that little physical energy. unless it was SO complicated that i had to sit to play it. and no one wants to WATCH that.

and 300? jeez. ive not been payed that collectively in the 5 years or so of gigging.
 
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I was just talking to a guitarist about this the other day, while they are awesomely talented, it's just boring to hear perfect perfection all the time. It loses the human aspect.

thats why i like guthrie govan. he writes songs, not 5 minute guitar solos.

and ive seen his live videos, hes as excited about getting things right as everyone else is. not as cold and full of himself as a satriani type.
 
you do have a point. but i get a woody from structure. playing complicated, calculated music makes me happy. especially when it comes to bass. 90% of what i do will be written. in my last band, there were improv spots, but i had a lot to hold together. perfection was fun there.

on guitar its entirely different. i screw around significantly more. random pinch harmonics. playing overhand to piss off my rhythm guitarist. running from one end of the stage to the other. sections of solos are written, others are improved every time.

anything construed as boring about playing scripted music is made up for with our stage presence. we never stop moving. i couldnt be audio wall paper. i couldnt play ANYTHING live with that little physical energy. unless it was SO complicated that i had to sit to play it. and no one wants to WATCH that.

and 300? jeez. ive not been payed that collectively in the 5 years or so of gigging.

Actually many people do want to watch that. And dance to it. And pay more money than the average gig;). I don't sit and play regardless of how complicated my gig is. My audiences really don't seem to mind that I'm not running from one side of the stage to the other. That's cool if that's what you like to.
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It would bore me to play a complicated song note for note for the umpteenth time live. That's why they make CDs/iPods;) Complicated head with improvisation? Cool. Note for note is cool with classical, otherwise I'd rather the musicians put more of themselves into the performance.
 
As a general rule of thumb, you have two extremes: play sloppy, but move around and be very visually entertaining, or play perfectly and be very visually boring.

The best bands are those that know how to get a perfect mix of the two. I, for one, will accept some sloppier playing and missing a few notes if it means that I'll be rocking out and running around for the whole show. Most clubs have terrible systems anyway, so the visual aspect is equally, if not more important as how well I play.
 

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