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Barefaced ONE10 - can it compete with a good 1x12?

Hi,
i am still searching for a bass cabinet to bring from germany to brasil. Here in brasil bass equipment is more than twice the price than in germany and they don't have so much variety too and since i will soon visit germany i want to bring a bass cabinet.
I want to use it standalone for my not so loud band for smaller gigs up to 100 people in the audience. I think a good 1x12 would be good enough for me, so i am thinking of bringing just the speaker and building a small 1x12 with an Eminence Basslite S2012, Deltalite 2512, Kappalite 3012HO or Faital Pro PR300. But since i am not very good in building cabs and upgrading a used cheap cab maybe also won't turn out so nice i am thinking about the Barefaced ONE10. I could even fit it in my luggage.

I was reading through some threads but am not really sure how much i can expect from that cab. They advertise it as beeing as loud as a 1x15 but i can't believe it. But maybe it competes with a good 1x12? Does it? Or would a Basslite S2012 in about 50 liters cabinet easily outperform it? Or the deltalite?

What is your experiences with that cab. Does it compete with your 1x12?

Thank you very much in advance!
If you can afford one... Mesa Subway 112. You'll be set!
 
I can imagine. But it's also not cheap and not too easy to build

FEARLESS (sic) cabs are not the DIY ones, so to copy one you'd need to reverse engineer it yourself. OTOH, the fEARful cab builds are well documented and not particularly hard to build at all, at least IME. But since you're now committed to something very different I guess it's all moot anyway, eh?
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Hi,
i am still searching for a bass cabinet to bring from germany to brasil. Here in brasil bass equipment is more than twice the price than in germany and they don't have so much variety too and since i will soon visit germany i want to bring a bass cabinet.
I want to use it standalone for my not so loud band for smaller gigs up to 100 people in the audience. I think a good 1x12 would be good enough for me, so i am thinking of bringing just the speaker and building a small 1x12 with an Eminence Basslite S2012, Deltalite 2512, Kappalite 3012HO or Faital Pro PR300. But since i am not very good in building cabs and upgrading a used cheap cab maybe also won't turn out so nice i am thinking about the Barefaced ONE10. I could even fit it in my luggage.

I was reading through some threads but am not really sure how much i can expect from that cab. They advertise it as beeing as loud as a 1x15 but i can't believe it. But maybe it competes with a good 1x12? Does it? Or would a Basslite S2012 in about 50 liters cabinet easily outperform it? Or the deltalite?

What is your experiences with that cab. Does it compete with your 1x12?

Thank you very much in advance!
@Ralferator , you'll be in Germany which is hop away from Italy. Have you thought of a Markbass combo 112? I don't own one but man they are sweet for the cost. Don't let anyone trash them to you about the yellow color-- they really are pretty loud for a small light combo. It might fit in a large duffel bag too...
 
Your comment on the Subway 12 is intriguing and I have heard it before. Without wishing to sidetrack this thread, how do you find it compares tonally to the Barefaced and AudioKinesis?

Ive owned both mesa subway 12 and Barefaced super twin 2x12. What I can tell you is that the mesa sounds more open and agressive in the hi end (even with tweeter of). The mesa also have some more built in low end girth. I found the barefaced cabinet really bad for my taste, too bland and flat and way too muffled in the hi end(i had the version without tweeter).

Now im playing my all time favorite cab: GRbass 1x12 cube which is supernice and ultra powerful for a 1x12

Btw I also owned a barefaced 2x10. It has about the same output as my GRbass 1x12 compared side by side with an 800w amp when pushed. This cabinet is voiced very differently however, as stated a big boost in the low mids and very vintage treble, sounded too closed for my taste. Sum: The barefaced TWO10s has about same output as a hi-end boutique 1x12, thats at least my experience when pushing the cabs I owned hard with a mesa d800
 
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@Ralferator , you'll be in Germany which is hop away from Italy. Have you thought of a Markbass combo 112? I don't own one but man they are sweet for the cost. Don't let anyone trash them to you about the yellow color-- they really are pretty loud for a small light combo. It might fit in a large duffel bag too...

Hey - thanks for your idea - but in fact i allready have a Peavey Minimax 500 amp that i love. So i only need a speaker. Also i would not be able to fit the Markbass in my bag
 
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Just to keep things in perspective, no-one really expects a single ten to keep up in a band situation with an acoustic drum set - although some say they have done this (no doubt with a drummer who has more self control than any with whom I have played :D). The Barefaced One 10 is, however, an exceptional ten and IMO the best I have played. That said, I keep the One 10 in my lounge for practice and gig a Four 10 and/or a Two 10. The baked in character of the Barefaced tens appeals to me and is the sound for which I have been searching for many years, plus as I age the light weight of the cabs is a huge bonus. They won't appeal to everyone, but I have yet to find a bad amp combination with this speaker and it really punches through at volume. Conversely, the more neutral and full range Big Baby 2 is quicker to show up amp differences, for example I prefer the Ampeg V4b with this cab over the Orange AD200 which is usually my favorite tube head.
This thread is going all over the place, such is the beauty of Talkbass. Just shows how far speaker design has come in recent years - both mechanically and in cabinets. We do seem to be in agreement that it will be difficult for a well designed ten inch speaker to compete with a similarly well designed twelve inch speaker. We truly are spoilt for choice.
 
Simple answer is no. Even Alex has explained that it takes a pair of One 10's to compare to a single 12.

It's a fantastic 10, but it's not a 12.

Also make sure you have the website address right, it's now www.barefacedaudio.com

I did compare the one10 to several cabinets.
The comparison on the barefaced website is between barefaced cabs, not those of other brands.
The one10 is a special little thing. What I loved most about it is how huge it sounds at lower volumes.
But in my experience, it is tuned for four string basses and does get to its limit rather fast when you turn up the bass knob and bring a low B into the game.
A four string with emphasis on the lower mids instead of the bass gets so loud, it's hard to believe.
But don't expect it to handle rock music with a drummer that plays with a bit of force.
When you go one cab up in terms of size, you'll get the Super Midget. I've done gigs with a six string, playing reggae tunes for an audience of 200 people with no PA support on that one. In my book, that's even more incredible. The weight goes up from 7kg to 9,5kg and the dimensions are quite a bit larger, but the Super Midget really handles everything you throw at it with the grace of a cabinet twice the size.




PS
...while I found most claims on the barefaced website to be quite accurate, I've actually taken the claim of the one10 pushing as much air as a 115 to the test.
The one10 lost. Badly.
 

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