Bass D.I with amp SIM for live gigs?

[FilipL82]

Here’s my ampless setup: EBS Multicomp → EHX Bass Soul Food → SansAmp Programmable BDDI.

I prefer the older BDDI models over the V2; with the blend set to 40%, there’s plenty of mids. It sounds incredible through both IEMs and FOH when paired with my Matt Freeman P Bass and TI strings.

 

[chadhargis]

I bought a JHS Punchline when I saw it pop up used. I wasn't expecting much, but it's REALLY good. My main rig is a Quad Cortex, and I captured the Punchline, but I held on to it because I like it so much.

 

[DonaldR]

Nice setup. I imagine the 2-button switch is to go thru your Line 6 HX One presets?
If so I have a question: say you are on the Ampeg Liquifier preset as shown, can you use the switches to load another preset put not active it immediately?
In resume: you are on preset one, use up switch to go to preset 4, wait 10 seconds, active it when pressing On switch?

 

[N. Kentucky Bass]

Hello!
Im involved in several local bands with frequent concerts from 80 to 800 people attendance.

On thing I notices is that almost every time the Bass goes with a D.I to the mixing board and the bass amp is used on the stage just for the band`s monitoring (and the first rows of the audience get to hear it.

Bassist usually play from clean to Drive to distortion, and those harmonics sound really bad if they dont go through an Amp/Speaker.

I tried several guitar Amp simulators in pedal format, and they do the job of tammeing the distortion, but also remove the Sub frequencies, even for the guitar is noticeable.

I wonder if there is any D.I pedal with an Amp/Speaker Simulator just for that Live Concert situation, that doesn't remove low end?

Also, Im not looking for any pedal with lots of features, nor Distortion, I want the bassist to deal their own sound, and this box be just a D.I without the "Distortion-via Line" sound. The simplest the better.

Thanks !
(im double posting in the Live sub forum also, since both sub forums have to do with the topic)

If your signal goes through a front-of-house system, whatever you feed it is at the mercy of the sound person. Usually they'll drop an HPF filter on the bass signal to avoid clashing with the kick -- which seems to be the #1 pre-eminent All Import sound for many mixing professionals. The HPF knee and slope on the bass signal are anyone's guess, and totally out of your control. Your amp sim and DI have nothing to do with that element of control.

 

[Jack]

Nice setup. I imagine the 2-button switch is to go thru your Line 6 HX One presets?
If so I have a question: say you are on the Ampeg Liquifier preset as shown, can you use the switches to load another preset put not active it immediately?
In resume: you are on preset one, use up switch to go to preset 4, wait 10 seconds, active it when pressing On switch?

Kind of. You can switch banks easily on the helix, then not press the actual preset you want until you need it.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

For anyone using the HX One, I can highly recommend Preston Pedals Deputy 1 controllers. It has an auxiliary 9v distribution port and TRS switch extension jack.

Preston can tune your unit as you like it. Mine came as eight switch combinations for presets and the two footswitchs on the unit remained the same. (Retail: +/- $129.00)

I believe this would meet requirements @DonaldR

 

[Verticos]

I can't believe nobody's suggested just a simple LPF yet. If you only want to shave off some of the high-end "harshness" of the signal, this is exactly what you need. Dead simple, something like the Broughton LPF is a single knob.

You mention comparing the DI sound to that of a speaker cab. Keep in mind that the vast majority of cabs DO inherently lose some ultra-low-frequency content due to the inherent limitations of their design. If you're looking for a cab sim that doesn't affect the lows at all, you're not actually looking for a cab sim IMO.

I think you may find that adding a high-pass at ~40-60Hz might cut the subsonic mud such that you can actually boost the LF content more, getting that strong low-end response you desire. If you want to try that, Broughton also makes a LPF / HPF. There are other great options such as the fdeck and the micro-Thumpinator too.