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Bass Player RIP...

I just received my last issue. I was going to renew, but then read the "review" of the new EBMM Stingrays and promptly decided to save my money. TB did a better job of outlining the changes and months before BP. just not getting anything out of it anymore and I have subscribed since the 90's.
 
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I hope BP continues but things are changing. Time was i read each issue cover to cover, now not so much.

I am showing my age I used to subscribe to Guitar Player, Down Beat, Rolling Stone and Circus back in the day in the hoped for an article that included the bass player and the rarest of rare an actual article on a bass player. Was thrilled when BP came along as well as the other attempts at bass magazines. At this point I am sitting on a mountain of old magazines that I rarely go through anymore and might actually enjoy a digital library on PC, tablet or phone.
 
I like BP mag, but one thing that irritates me to no end is that they don’t have an online index to issues. They have a valuable set of accurate transcriptions but it’s a huge PITA to have to physically leaf through every issue I own to try and find a transcription I know I have.

An index of transcriptions and cover articles/artists would add so much value for me I wouldn’t even think about cancelling. As it is, given the thin page count/content of the last few years, I think I will let my current subscription lapse.
 
  • Interesting...I sent in renewal around Jan, received 1 issue, never got their billing, and haven't had another issue show up. Haven't trekked to the Barnes and Chernobyl I usually bought it from to see if they're just not sending to me. I really love the mag, yeah, it's not quite what it used to be, but how many magazines do we have for our thing? Not much...
  • Bullet points? How'd I do that?. thumbing thru some old issues, I find it fascinating how much amazing gear they gave away in the early years, some real high $ stuff. Anyone know how that worked? Did they just have a budget for contest stuff, was it gear donated by manufacturers for promo purposes? The best I ever did was I won an autographed copy of Mick Karn's album Bestial Cluster. Cool. Very good album, with David Torn (those 2 sucha beauty combo, don't get me started on Polytown).
  • MJ
 
Stopped subscribing somewhere around the early to mid 90s and I haven’t read much by them at all since the start of the millenium. They got really chatty and seemed less geared towards professionals and serious non-pros as time went on.

Even the adverts started getting big on graphics and photography and low on information. But that seems to be the trend everywhere now that ad agencies have decided nobody reads anymore and started gearing their efforts to garner industry awards rather than educate potential buyers and sell product.

Shame really. But the days of glossy 200 page magazines with a half dozen or more good articles and eight or so well written regular columns per issue (and some ad copy actually worth reading) are a thing of the past.
 
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  • Interesting...I sent in renewal around Jan, received 1 issue, never got their billing, and haven't had another issue show up. Haven't trekked to the Barnes and Chernobyl I usually bought it from to see if they're just not sending to me. I really love the mag, yeah, it's not quite what it used to be, but how many magazines do we have for our thing? Not much...

I had a similar thing happen back when I subscribed. An issue or two just didn't show up, then later ones did. I let the subscription lapse, but I still pick up a copy at B&N now and then.
 
NewBay Media (which owned Bass Player, Guitar World, Guitar Player and more) was bought by Invalid Link Removed a month or two back. I would guess that many of the lost jobs at BP were do to redundancy across company lines.

All of the marketing contacts that I deal with for ad placement are still there, and I have heard nothing about any of the mags stopping.
 
I like BP mag, but one thing that irritates me to no end is that they don’t have an online index to issues. They have a valuable set of accurate transcriptions but it’s a huge PITA to have to physically leaf through every issue I own to try and find a transcription I know I have.

An index of transcriptions and cover articles/artists would add so much value for me I wouldn’t even think about cancelling.
I agree!
When I first got online (late '90s), I e-mailed BP about the lack of a decent search function on their website.
Told them, if I search '"Fima Ephron"...why don't I see the two issues he was covered vs. either no hits or a 1000 unrelated hits?
Told them I had every issue & I would catalog a Who's-Who in what issue for them. Nope...was told they were working on that...since 1999?
 
NewBay Media (which owned Bass Player, Guitar World, Guitar Player and more) was bought by Invalid Link Removed a month or two back. I would guess that many of the lost jobs at BP were do to redundancy across company lines.

All of the marketing contacts that I deal with for ad placement are still there, and I have heard nothing about any of the mags stopping.
BP moved pretty much all of its staff, even the Sr Editors role, to freelance status some time ago ( year or so ?), and the "staffing" for BP has been very skinny for several years, so I'm not sure that BP really lost much in this recent move.

As Jon Moody mentioned, Future bought NewBay Media about a month ago and severely cut the staff at Guitar Player (pretty much only leaving one Sr. Editor in place for the time being). I understand that Future did something similar to Guitar World too.

To the best of my knowledge, Futures plans for any of the NewBay publications have not been revealed to those few who still are employed.

print media is no picnic
 
the whole point of a magazine is to get eyes on ads. It's NOT to conveniently lay out information in a way such as to help you get to it more quickly. Far from it. In fact, the OPPOSITE of that. If you are able to get to the information you want, and ONLY the information you want, quickly, then you aren't thumbing through the magazine looking for it. If you aren't thumbing through the magazine, you are getting repeat views of their ads. If you aren't getting repeat views of their ads, the ads won't be effective. If the ads aren't effective, vendors will stop buying ads. No ads, no magazine.

So, in essence, if you guys got your way, the magazine would have folded years ago because the ads would have been even less effective even earlier.

It's not the job of the publisher to make it easy for you to get YOUR favorite info. It's their job to try to get you to glance at their ads as often as possible.

TV gets paid for by commercials. At some point (if they already haven't) they will figure out how to measure what percentage of ads are getting the fast forward treatment (and thus less effective). Once that happens, TV will start to struggle as well.

Sports get paid for by ad revenue (both college and pro). You think ticket sales at Alabama make them a zillion dollars? Nope. ESPN (or whatever network) contracts make them a zillion dollars. ESPN is paid for by ads, no so much subscriber (especially these days).

Radio (both over the air and internet) gets paid for by ad revenue.

If we start doing away with ads of every kind, many of the things we really like will go away. Had BP magazine provided easy access to small blocks of content (either with index pages or search engines) the ad companies would have figured out immediately that their ads were not going to be seen.

I used to sell radio ads in the 90s. I competed against print and video media (as well as other radio stations, of course). Luckily, I was doing that right before the interwebz stood everything on its head.

I like BP mag, but one thing that irritates me to no end is that they don’t have an online index to issues. They have a valuable set of accurate transcriptions but it’s a huge PITA to have to physically leaf through every issue I own to try and find a transcription I know I have.

An index of transcriptions and cover articles/artists would add so much value for me I wouldn’t even think about cancelling. As it is, given the thin page count/content of the last few years, I think I will let my current subscription lapse.

I agree!
When I first got online (late '90s), I e-mailed BP about the lack of a decent search function on their website.
Told them, if I search '"Fima Ephron"...why don't I see the two issues he was covered vs. either no hits or a 1000 unrelated hits?
Told them I had every issue & I would catalog a Who's-Who in what issue for them. Nope...was told they were working on that...since 1999?
 
  • Interesting...I sent in renewal around Jan, received 1 issue, never got their billing, and haven't had another issue show up. Haven't trekked to the Barnes and Chernobyl I usually bought it from to see if they're just not sending to me. I really love the mag, yeah, it's not quite what it used to be, but how many magazines do we have for our thing? Not much...
  • Bullet points? How'd I do that?. thumbing thru some old issues, I find it fascinating how much amazing gear they gave away in the early years, some real high $ stuff. Anyone know how that worked? Did they just have a budget for contest stuff, was it gear donated by manufacturers for promo purposes? The best I ever did was I won an autographed copy of Mick Karn's album Bestial Cluster. Cool. Very good album, with David Torn (those 2 sucha beauty combo, don't get me started on Polytown).
  • MJ
My friend in the 90's entered a contest to win a Warwick 610 cab and the matching amp, also a Warwick 5 string "dolphin" bass with light up fret markers. The Bass player from the Arsinal Hall shows rig.
He won it and still has the bass till this day. Thanks to BP mag.
 

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