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Be a man, dammit!

pointbass said:
These stories kill me .......

What kind of bands do you guys play with :confused: I have never had any band member ever question a bass I was playing. As long as the groove is there, no one cares about the instrument :cool:

On the other hand, this is Jersey .... we don't get all caught up in appearances .... :D

What kind of music do you play.

I don't agree with it, but I understand why. Rock IS somewhat image oriented.
 
Be a man, dammit!

That pretty much says it all. That bass player must owe the guitarist a lot of something to be so whipped as to let the guitarist pick out his bass. Let the guitarist pick out his bass???

I can't believe anybody could be so insecure and immature.
 
lamarjones said:
What kind of music do you play.

I don't agree with it, but I understand why. Rock IS somewhat image oriented.

Yeah, I guess that is a valid point ... I play almost entirely jazz & funk, very little straight rock except for studio work. Plus I'm old, (man, now I sound like my father :scowl: ) and players my age are not at all concerned with name brands. But you sure better know how to play whatever instrument you bring in or you're in for a world of hurt ! :bassist:
 
When I first got with my current band, I had a Streamer Stage 1 5, and one of the lead vocalists said, "Basses should only have 4 strings. I don't wanna see that thing next week." The next week I showed with the same bass. Before he could say anything, I stopped him in his tracks and said, "Dude, not today! It was cute last week, but today, it's gonna cause you to use your deductable on your dental plan!" Hey, sue me, I was having a bad day! Anyway, someone else in the band said, "Hey don't be stupid. If he's going to play bass, he should play HIS bass!" Since them, eveything's been cool.
 
I auditioned for a party band playing the usual stuff. I got the gig. I slam the song list for an entire week.

At the first rehearsal I show up with my Roscoe 5 (same at the audition) one thing led to another and the drummer / band leader / supposedly ex bass player is telling me to cut my treble all the way (-12db) and cut my mids all the way (-12db). Just to humor them (I did kinda wanted the gig), I tried it. He exclaimed "Now that's what a bass should sound like!!".

I knew then and there that would be the last time I played with them. Things went downhill from there.

I'm currently in the woodshed and looking for a job. So, it all worked out. But, it was a disappointment.

I say go with the Peavey if that's what sounds good. Be true to you.

:hyper:
 
The Hammer said:
What if someone offered to give you a watch for free and you had your choice of a $2000 rolex or a $3000 timex. Which would you choose. Let's say the Rolex was just one of their standard models and the Timex was basically identical to the Rolex except it was a Timex. I agree with you on if you like it then play it but I also have to consider resale value when I buy something.

I'd buy the Timex used for $500. :cool:
If resale's a big issue (sometimes it is for me too), buying new rarely makes sense, IMHO.
 
Damn, That sucks...

Even in a music store with my non "Musical" friends, I picked up a NICE 6 string Elrick, and was lovin the thing... Then one of them said "hey, look at that" and pointing to a Fender Jazz they said, "wow, That ones only $400, and its probably a lot better than the one you're playing, Everyone uses them so they must be."

*Sigh*

There's been soo many times that I went out to try some 6 strings and everyone looked at me and kinda rolled there eye's and made these faces :hmm: :rollno: :eyebrow:

I cant stand that.
 
That does suck. The Cirrus are damn fine basses. I might not have believed as much until I saw Embellisher's Tiger Eye 6 last weekend and heard how it sounded and felt. But after checking it out, I couldnt find anything wrong with it. Its really too bad Peavy has a name for being a poor-mans instrument or that the quality isnt up to snuff. At least the Cirrus is is well worthy of its price tag I think.
 
It's probably true that if a band *tells* you what bass to play, then more personality "quirks" will be encountered later. That said: I like to have a variety of basses in my collection. If a band ever *asked* me to play my Fender instead of my MTD (or v/v), I'd have no problem complying. If they ever told me to play something besides five string, or something I didn't own, I'd refuse.
 
Peavey will never be taken seriously as long as they cling to their logo. Looks like something a seventh grade Kiss fan would have scribbled on his notebook.

Anyway...

As a bandleader and producer, there are times when you want a certain sound for a project. If the pointy horned flamed maple bass gets the sound I want, fine. If not, a professional bassist should have other weapons in his/her arsenal. No instrument should be a security blanket. I'm primarily a guitarist, and I have a lot of different guitars for different sounds. I don't take a Tele to a Les Paul gig, and I don't bring a Floyd Rose super strat to a jazz gig. And I don't take offense when someone requests a certain sound. I just make sure I can deliver the sound requested, using whichever tool is necessary.

The session guys I use bring Pedullas, Warwicks, etc. High dollar flamed maple stuff. And sometimes the high end basses don't get the sound I want. Those guys have no problem using my Jazz Bass for a track. It's all about what the music requires.

That said, there are a lot of ignorant "bandleaders" out there with kneejerk opinions and prejudices. Part of being a professional is learning how to accomodate what can be accomodated, and how to walk away gracefully from a lose/lose situation.
 
Lyle Caldwell said:
Peavey will never be taken seriously as long as they cling to their logo. Looks like something a seventh grade Kiss fan would have scribbled on his notebook.

Anyway...

As a bandleader and producer, there are times when you want a certain sound for a project. If the pointy horned flamed maple bass gets the sound I want, fine. If not, a professional bassist should have other weapons in his/her arsenal. No instrument should be a security blanket. I'm primarily a guitarist, and I have a lot of different guitars for different sounds. I don't take a Tele to a Les Paul gig, and I don't bring a Floyd Rose super strat to a jazz gig. And I don't take offense when someone requests a certain sound. I just make sure I can deliver the sound requested, using whichever tool is necessary.

The session guys I use bring Pedullas, Warwicks, etc. High dollar flamed maple stuff. And sometimes the high end basses don't get the sound I want. Those guys have no problem using my Jazz Bass for a track. It's all about what the music requires.

That said, there are a lot of ignorant "bandleaders" out there with kneejerk opinions and prejudices. Part of being a professional is learning how to accomodate what can be accomodated, and how to walk away gracefully from a lose/lose situation.
What is up with the peavey logo? At one time they had a more contemporary logo and now it seems that they have gone back to the old seventies heavy metal band logo
 
At this point I really don't know HOW Peavey can lose this stigma. Even if they were to cut out their bread and butter and only make top-shelf Cirrus basses, I don't think that stigma will ever go away. But people who know, and are secure with what they like OVER what the next guy says will still buy, and Peavey isn't hurting for business....

And to the point about their logo, couldn't tell you WHY they went back to the original Kiss Army logo, but if it was in any way for nostalgia's sake, boy did they ever pick a bad reason to wax nostalgic.... ;)
 
Lyle Caldwell said:
Peavey will never be taken seriously as long as they cling to their logo. Looks like something a seventh grade Kiss fan would have scribbled on his notebook.

Anyway...

As a bandleader and producer, there are times when you want a certain sound for a project. If the pointy horned flamed maple bass gets the sound I want, fine. If not, a professional bassist should have other weapons in his/her arsenal. No instrument should be a security blanket. I'm primarily a guitarist, and I have a lot of different guitars for different sounds. I don't take a Tele to a Les Paul gig, and I don't bring a Floyd Rose super strat to a jazz gig. And I don't take offense when someone requests a certain sound. I just make sure I can deliver the sound requested, using whichever tool is necessary.

The session guys I use bring Pedullas, Warwicks, etc. High dollar flamed maple stuff. And sometimes the high end basses don't get the sound I want. Those guys have no problem using my Jazz Bass for a track. It's all about what the music requires.

That said, there are a lot of ignorant "bandleaders" out there with kneejerk opinions and prejudices. Part of being a professional is learning how to accomodate what can be accomodated, and how to walk away gracefully from a lose/lose situation.


I understand what you're saying, but to answer you and the guy that wanted to play "Devil's advocate", he and his bandmate both thought that the Peavey was "killer" (their words). They just didn't like the "Peavey" on the headstock.
 
I don't think Hartley is dead, I think his wife Melanie passed a few years ago...I could have it backwards, but I don't think so...

If any guitar player told me what bass to buy, I think I'd have to check to be sure it fit sideways up his

I regularly play my Squier Precision 5 on gigs, most people can't tell it's not a Fender, and those that can are blown away by the tone. Me, I like the feel. I got some crap from a band over playing an Aria once, they said "That bass just doesn't look like the rest of the band's gear..." Oh, really? I walked out of the rehearsal studio, not saying a word (even though I wanted to!).
 

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