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#41
I own a Peavey Cirrus V, MMsr5 and a Warwick Corvette FNA and whats interesting to me is 1) how someone stick their chest out because of the name on the headstock or because they spent a boat load of money, 2) there isn't a bass on planet earth that everyone likes 3) if you don't like it don't buy it 4) an opinion is an opinion is an opinion and everybody has one. Personally (as if someone asked me :hyper: ) I'm more impressed by ones playing style and technique, not what they are playing. I have nice basses and can't play a lick, and I've seen some bass players take a so called low ranking bass and jam. Go figure!
 
#44
Dr. Cheese said:
it really irks me that Peavey value is always seen as cheapness.
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There is a silver lining here, tho... the "devalued" nature of these things due to the name does put a darn nice bass in the hands of those with less money to spend.

This "devaluation" is changing over time, however, due to the rep it's finally and deservedly earning, but for now, it's still a reality.

The bass player that Woodchuck described needs to get a backbone.
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+1

Someday he'll learn and regret. Some lessons you just have to learn the hard way, I guess. :rollno:
 
#46
About Peavey Basses:

The Cirrus line is very nice and has been around a while. I also really like the TL-5 and TL-6, and the matching Rudy Sarzo 4. Those were nice pieces of wood, well constructed, and very playable. The electronics got knocked now and again, but that's fixable. They are generally a great bargain
bass in the $500-ish range on the used market.


About the Peavey name and reputation:

Well, how did Toyota and Nissan sell high-end stuff without a name stigma? When Honda, Nissan and Toyota were selling economy cars, they introduced the Acura, Infiniti and Lexus brands. Maybe Peavey should introduce a new brand to put on their high-end pro gear if they see a problem with the way their brand is accepted?


With regard to the original topic:

I have brought new gear to jams or gigs and received comments about it relative to performance, both pro and con. I once showed up at a classic rock gig with an Alembic Exploiter bass on loan to try it out. I expected all sorts of grief about the shape, and instead heard raves about the tone. I had a neck-through Modulus that everyone hated the sound of, and they were really grateful when I traded it on a Zon Sonus.

I have always taken these comments as constructive, but they have always been based on results and not brand name. I think the reception of these kinds of comments is all about the delivery and apparent motivation. If I were playing in a tribute band or some other genre where appearance was a significant part of the delivery, then I'd be as concerned about it as the rest of the band. That said, I can't think of anyplace where, solely on the basis of appearance, it would be appropriate to use a MusicMan but not a Cirrus.

-Bob
 
#47
As I understand it, Mr Peavey designed the logo when he was in the 7th grade. It must be hard to turn loose of something after that long. And, I suspect, his perception of his company's reputation is different from others. To me, Peavey means "gimmicky", "trying to do too much with too little" and the like; in interviews with Mr Peavey I have seen, he prefers to think of his gear as being "feature laden" and offering "a lot of bang for the buck." We're both right. :hmm:
 
#48
The Hammer said:
I agree with you on if you like it then play it but I also have to consider resale value when I buy something.
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Yeah, but the name devaluation affects both the seller and the buyer, so it should all come out even in the end... it has for me, anyway.

That said, their new prices have continued to go up, so the new basses may be gettin' a little too pricey a little too early, unless the dealer is offering the usual deep discounts on Peavey stuff.

In other words, the Cirrus has come a long way, but I don't think it's come far enough to justify a 3K price tag yet (which is what the MSRP is on a Tiger Eye 6 now).
 
#50
vics said:
There is a silver lining here, tho... the "devalued" nature of these things due to the name does put a darn nice bass in the hands of those with less money to spend.

This "devaluation" is changing over time, however, due to the rep it's finally and deservedly earning, but for now, it's still a reality.

+1

Someday he'll learn and regret. Some lessons you just have to learn the hard way, I guess. :rollno:
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Thank You1
 
#52
pointbass said:
These stories kill me .......

What kind of bands do you guys play with :confused: I have never had any band member ever question a bass I was playing. As long as the groove is there, no one cares about the instrument :cool:

On the other hand, this is Jersey .... we don't get all caught up in appearances .... :D
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This is true...

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#53
Funkize you said:
There's been soo many times that I went out to try some 6 strings and everyone looked at me and kinda rolled there eye's and made these faces :hmm: :rollno: :eyebrow:

I cant stand that.
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Yeah, but as long as you don't succumb to it, it doesn't matter. If it becomes a "deal breaker" for the band you're in, then you're not in the right band anyway, so it all works out if you have a little patience and tolerance.
 
#54
When your band tells you which bass to play it is time to find a new band. I don't mind suggestions, like someone saying "that Fender you played last week sounded great, you should play it more often", but I don't like them telling me I can't play a certain bass.

That said, I always show up with a bass that is right for the style of music the band plays. I don't know what kind of music that band plays, but a Cirrus should be good for pretty much anything.
 
#56
Fuzzbass said:
It's probably true that if a band *tells* you what bass to play, then more personality "quirks" will be encountered later. That said: I like to have a variety of basses in my collection. If a band ever *asked* me to play my Fender instead of my MTD (or v/v), I'd have no problem complying. If they ever told me to play something besides five string, or something I didn't own, I'd refuse.
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+1
 
#57
AlembicBob said:
Well, how did Toyota and Nissan sell high-end stuff without a name stigma? When Honda, Nissan and Toyota were selling economy cars, they introduced the Acura, Infiniti and Lexus brands. Maybe Peavey should introduce a new brand to put on their high-end pro gear if they see a problem with the way their brand is accepted?
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My thoguhts exactly. If reputation is an issue that is affecting their botton line or their growth in this area, perhaps they should start up a sort of premium brand.

If I were in that store and witnessed that nonsense, I would have butted in and told the giittt-tarrr player (or whatever he was) a thing or two. I just hope he wasn't also an alleged bassist... shame if he was.
 
#58
Lyle Caldwell said:
Peavey will never be taken seriously as long as they cling to their logo. Looks like something a seventh grade Kiss fan would have scribbled on his notebook.
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Surely you jest. I seriously doubt this is the problem. I'm pretty sure it's simply because they (continue to) generally cater to the low end.

As a bandleader and producer, there are times when you want a certain sound for a project.
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Of course, this makes perfect sense, but I'm pretty sure it's not what this thread was started about.

That said, there are a lot of ignorant "bandleaders" out there with kneejerk opinions and prejudices.
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Yes, and I'm pretty sure this IS what the thread was started about. :)
 
#60
I probably would have spoken up to the guitarist, and told the bassist he needs a new band, within earshot of everyone. But I'm that way sometimes :D

As far as a shredder in a blues band? My last band was very blues based, and we did a lot of tasteful jams at gigs that blew people away, even the old timers. He looks like a shredder, and often plays his reflective gold pick-guarded Reb Beach Ibanez during songs he solos a lot. Noone seemed to have a problem with it because he played it tastefully.

I also was thinking of Bon Jovi when I read the Jersey comment, nice :)

Do I have preconceived notions on someone because of their gear? Of course, but I surely am not going to say anything before I catch them playing?! If at all...

Some people just suck. I should add that to my sig by now.

Troll
 

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