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Behringer Bass V-AMP Pro

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#861
Thanks and welcome to both bettyseldest + Berthos for the kind words!

Please PM me should you want Member #'s in the Behringer V-AMP Squad and make it official.

Great info in your post, by the way, Berthos, and should you see one Mr. Bob Daisley there down under, please give him my regards :-)

Cheers!
 
#863
Justice said:
i have had my Bass V-Amp Pro since they first came out in July 2003. So mine is over 7 years old. The only problem I have had with it during that time was the memory battery failing (cost $3 to replace) and it still got me through the gig.

It survived a car wreck, was stolen and pawned once (i recovered it) and it still just keeps going. And its always sounded good to me as well. I liked the the Ampeg SVT model on it much more than on my Line6 BassPof XT Live.
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Had mine also since 2004, built like a tank.

Funny, I bet if Behringer stuff cost more people would say better things about it???
 
#864
BTW, Berthos...I just noticed that you have a lot of Behringer products (I knew I should have bought their stock;)) I recently purchased an interface and mixer from behringer (to join w/ my V-Amp Pro and various combo amps I already own) and am loving every rare moment I get in using them.

a shout out to Caeman for his help in the recording dept.:D I plan to post clips of my playing as time allows. Anyone else have audio or video of themselves playing Behringer? -Dann
 
#867
Thanks for taking the time to post your examples for using the Vamp. You should put them on Youtube, there is nothing as helpful, out there, as your posting. I use a Vamp,a Mesa Boogie simul295stereo an ampeg 4x10 and a mesa Diesel 1x15. I also have a Digitech bp8 which doesn`t get used for the moment.
 
#869
I just came home with one of these puppies. Oh, my word!
Obviously, and predictably, there are some silly presets, but on the whole this is a very serious piece of kit.

I did experience some noise, but found that careful tweaking of parameters gets rid of it quickly. Do you really need that much presence/gain/compressor? Tweak, and it's silent.
The effects are cool, and the synth tracks really well.
It's the pre-amp part that I'm stoked about. The amp sims are quite close. You can tweak to get some very cool, and extremely usable sounds.
My band is in pre-production for serious demo/album, and I think this will be a cool thing to use recording. We're just coming up towards gigging, and I can't see the V-Amp Pro being too shabby for that either!
Well worth the money ($69), and I haven't even got into the meat of this thing yet.

What's the story on pedals? Front end, or in a loop? Which works best?
BTW: I'll take a number, but I doubt I'll ever sig it!
 
#870
ThudThudThud said:
I just came home with one of these puppies. Oh, my word!
Obviously, and predictably, there are some silly presets, but on the whole this is a very serious piece of kit.

I did experience some noise, but found that careful tweaking of parameters gets rid of it quickly. Do you really need that much presence/gain/compressor? Tweak, and it's silent.
The effects are cool, and the synth tracks really well.
It's the pre-amp part that I'm stoked about. The amp sims are quite close. You can tweak to get some very cool, and extremely usable sounds.
My band is in pre-production for serious demo/album, and I think this will be a cool thing to use recording. We're just coming up towards gigging, and I can't see the V-Amp Pro being too shabby for that either!
Well worth the money ($69), and I haven't even got into the meat of this thing yet.

What's the story on pedals? Front end, or in a loop? Which works best?
BTW: I'll take a number, but I doubt I'll ever sig it!
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Welcome, Squad Member #20!

Give it a few days more and you should be even more impressed :-)
 
#871
If you are going to use pedals, use the FX loop ports on the back. You have two options: pre-dsp and post-dsp. pre-dsp is putting it before the amp, but they are isolated over that way, avoiding various hum issues and such.
 
#872
Glad to see one more person that appreciates the value of this unit :)
Aside from some missing parameters on some of the FX I've found that there are only two things that don't really cut it in the unit, wha and (serious noisy) distortion. The last one can be somewhat achieved with the guitar amps but then you'll end up with diferent simulations on the presets which make changing mid-song unusable because of the sound glitch.
 
#873
I've been doing some homework, and it looks like this this will be able to replace a number of things I have in my pedal arsenal by hooking up to a MIDI controller and using the software.
Although I have a number of pedals in my chain, I mostly have tone shaping stuff that's left on all the time, and I only add a couple of things as necessary - Chorus, reverb, delay, dirt, octave. Now I can set my MIDI controller as a stompbox!
I was at a loss on really tweaking the delay and such, but the software opens up a world of possibility.

Great tips on this thread for input gain etc. Cool stuff.

One cool thing is that my other pre-amps will now function as cool pedals for boost, change of eq, and even then they are somewhat unnecessary. I do have one concern, though:

I used a Boss CEB-3 that has control over the affect on different frequencies (which I like on the highs) and I leave the lows unaffected. Is this possible with this unit with the built in Chorus (which is quite musical)?

Has anyone used this unit in conjunction with any Tech-21 stuff like the SABDDI? What did you find? Should I keep the SABDDI in the loop as a stomp? What about that before the V-AMP, with the other pedals going via the loop?
Wayyyyy too much to think about.

I must say that although the presets are a bit silly, there's one that absolutely kills the intro to 'Space Trucking.' You know the one...

Now I have to convince my (hard rock) band that the Synth will sound cool in a couple of places....(a little dab'll do ya! Can't overdo it). :bassist:
 
#874
Plugged in at practice last night. Set to L3, dial up a serviceable "SVT" like tone. Effects went via pre-eq loop, and i had a paramatric EQ on the post-eq loop.

After hitting the "Line In" button there was a bit of a volume surge from my effects loop. I disabled the compressor in my multi-effects (which I mainly use as a line of stompboxes rather than with patches), and I also turned off the SansAmp Tri-AC that was my main pre up to now (I used to go SA to Parametric to power amp - The Tri-AC does have some very good bass patches). I also have an SABDDI in the loop, and I found that keeping that on was actually quite cool. Added a depth that feels and sounds nice. The effects on the loop responded fine, and perhaps had a little more complexity due to the increased clarity.

I'm sure there must be some loop mix/level in the software (oh, that manual....), but for now it was kinda cool.

I won't say I 'cut through the mix' because I'm on TB and people throw stuff at you. I did, however, have more clarity and depth. As the evening went on I was tweaking by small increments to dial in the tone I needed. Very successful. I found the sound fit very well into my band's sound (Bass/Guitar/Drums/Vocal).

I will, in the future, be replacing some of the stomp boxes with a MIDI controller. I should be able to considerable reduce my floor effects footprint by using the models in the unit [Cloned basic tone plus the addition of effects per patch]. My MIDI pedal conveniently has five buttons plus up/down. That could happily correspond with the ABCDE settings for patches. Not sure if I can configure it to act like effects pedals only (as the FCB1010 does it)...Must be in the manual, surely :bawl:

Keeping this thing! Very cool gear for very little money. I've had a number of Behringer items over the years, and never had a single problem (except a stomp EQ that's a bit noisy). Perhaps I'm lucky, or perhaps I've just bought wisely.
 
#875
Ignore the manual. You will have better like trying to divine your answers from a plate of bones.

Try using the software to control settings via MIDI. Take the laptop with your practice so you can set things more easily. Once done, save 'em for live use.
 
#876
ThudThudThud said:
Not sure if I can configure it to act like effects pedals only (as the FCB1010 does it)
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From my experience the stompbox thing goes something like this:
Using the software you can set up ONE effect, turn it off and the settings for that effect will be stored in the patch memory just as if it was on. You cannot do this with more than one effect, if you setup lest say chorus and then send a MIDI signal to turn on, for instance, the ultrabass, one of two things happen, either it uses the same control values (knob positions) for the ultrabass or it resets to some default ultrabass setting. Not really sure which one is true.

So ideally, to work as a if with stompboxes, your MIDI controller would have to send at least 4 MIDI CC messages with one footswitch touch: 2 messages with the same address are needed to make the on/off effect and each effect has at least 2 parameters. Since the FCB1010 is limited to 2 CC messages (with the factory ROM) using it as stompbox in this manner is not possible.

Now there is another option that might work with some limitations. I'm not sure since I'm yet to try this but I belive that changing between patches with the same amp sim does not generate sound glitches so you can set each patch ABCDE with a different effect and then run through them using only MIDI PrgChange messages, as long as you only use one amp simulation per song. Now I repeat that I'm not sure that changing patches with the same amp sim is clean, just a suspicion.
 
#877
Now there is another option that might work with some limitations. I'm not sure since I'm yet to try this but I belive that changing between patches with the same amp sim does not generate sound glitches so you can set each patch ABCDE with a different effect and then run through them using only MIDI PrgChange messages, as long as you only use one amp simulation per song. Now I repeat that I'm not sure that changing patches with the same amp sim is clean, just a suspicion.
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That was what I was thinking. My MIDI controller is the older, chunkier, Rockman MIDIPedal. If save Bank 1, patch 1 as, say, SVT type amp, and then patch 2 as same amp + Chorus, and Patch 3 as same amp + delay etc. I shouldn't have too much of a glitch-delay when I change patches... That was my thinking. If I want a different amp I could do the same on Bank 2, Patch 1 and so forth. I'm thinking that I could possibly use two different amps at a gig, have a 'clean', a chorus, a delay, a dirt, and then a tuner on each bank - each bank being a separate basic amp sound. Should work for gigging....

I think I'll also have some pedals still in the loop, so adding dirt etc. would be easy there too. I could, essentiall have twice the pedals, in half the real estate.
 
#878
I know this is a really lame thing to ask but I'm starting to get desperate...
I need a nice sound to play Uprising my Muse... yes I know it depends on the bass I'm using and that I basically wan't to use a hundred dollar unit to recreate many hundreds of dollars of effects but I really just need to "fool" people who have listened to the track a couple of times in the radio, not real muse fans.

So far I'm going with 70's amp sim with max gain + big muff sim + ultrabass with about 50% mix and sense in the lower values. The lower notes are kind of there but the hole thing sounds muffled and the higher notes just don't cut it. Any ideas?
 
#879
Early on in this thread I mentioned that I got an intermittent 'rumbling' sound on some notes as if the Ultrabass was kicking in. I followed the de-crapifying list and all seemed to be well. However it has now returned and this morning I noticed something strange (at least to me). When I switched on the
V-Amp the green signal LED came on intermittently even though nothing was connected. Should this happen? Does it indicate an input fault (happens when switched to line-in too)? I've listened carefully and this seems to be the cause of the low frequency 'rustling' sound that accompanies some notes. Thanks for any help or tips.:hmm:
 
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