Behringer Ultrabass - Yay or nay?

[oldprussians]

"Reverse engineer." Those words actually mean something. Have you actually compared the circuitry of the Behringer to that of the Hartke?

Stop being facetious... you know what I mean.

Yes they are cheap, but they offer a lot for your euro!

Now being cheap you take the risk of the usual.... that is all!

People buy cheap because at the time it is the best they can buy.

So I have a Behringer to get on , but when I have saved enough dispensable cash, I'll move to either a an ESB or GlockenKlang!

 

[Christian Joseph Allbee]

Nay.

Behringers are good for getting started on (if you're starting to learn bass), but if you buy it now, you're basically trading one cheap practice amp for another.

I have one that I got when I first started learning bass, but I wanna upgrade to something better eventually.

 

[xgator4u]

Not only NAY but RUN!!!!! Behringer gear may seem like a great deal at first but it will only bring you much grief. What they do is reverse engineer other companies products and make them with the cheapest parts possible, guaranteed to fail in 6 months o less.

Honestly, try something like the GK Backline series combos o Microbass series, Markbass o even an Acoustic practice combo, any of these will be a fa better deal.

THIS.
Nay I Say.

 

[vickde]

Stop being facetious... you know what I mean.

Not being facetious at all. There's no way anyone can know what you mean. We can only know what you write. You wrote that you wanted to make things CLEAR and then accused Behringer of reverse engineering a Hartke amp to build theirs. I was pretty sure you had no actual knowledge of what was inside the box. Thank you for verifying that.

I haven't reviewed the circuit on that particular amp against the Hartke, although I've gone through the exercise with a number of their other amps, including a BVT4500H, which I own. IME, it would be unusual for Behringer to reverse engineer a bass amp. Much more likely, they copied the exterior looks of the Hartke to get the uninformed consumer to believe it was reverse engineered, designed the circuit using their off-the-shelf modules - a preamp here, a poweramp there, then added a couple of marketable features of questionable utility so that they could say that they "improved" on the design of the original, which they hadn't actually copied in the first place. After which they built it to a low price point in their carefully managed Asian factories.

TalkBass is well-known in the general community for bashing Behringer. It therefore becomes important when we discuss them to be accurate, and not use terms that we cannot defend.

 

[oldprussians]

Not being facetious at all. There's no way anyone can know what you mean. We can only know what you write. You wrote that you wanted to make things CLEAR and then accused Behringer of reverse engineering a Hartke amp to build theirs. I was pretty sure you had no actual knowledge of what was inside the box. Thank you for verifying that.

I haven't reviewed the circuit on that particular amp against the Hartke, although I've gone through the exercise with a number of their other amps, including a BVT4500H, which I own. IME, it would be unusual for Behringer to reverse engineer a bass amp. Much more likely, they copied the exterior looks of the Hartke to get the uninformed consumer to believe it was reverse engineered, designed the circuit using their off-the-shelf modules - a preamp here, a poweramp there, then added a couple of marketable features of questionable utility so that they could say that they "improved" on the design of the original, which they hadn't actually copied in the first place. After which they built it to a low price point in their carefully managed Asian factories.

TalkBass is well-known in the general community for bashing Behringer. It therefore becomes important when we discuss them to be accurate, and not use terms that we cannot defend.

Yes OK I take your point!

But I think you know what I meant, it is copied, badly or not!

But I think to bash Behringer is not right.

It is a bit like bashing a good flatpack furniture manufacturer for not making solid wood furniture.... That not what it is....

For the price they offer a good product, with good features, that is all!