I have both the HDN 210 and the HDN 112. The 210 sounds crystal clear, nice low end and tons of punch. I loved it. Here's me playing that combination a couple weeks ago.
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Bergantino B/Amp at NAMM
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I have both the HDN 210 and the HDN 112. The 210 sounds crystal clear, nice low end and tons of punch. I loved it. Here's me playing that combination a couple weeks ago.
I played through the B|Amp and HDN210 at NAMM and it sounded great. I have the HD210 and HD112. If I didn't already have the HD cabs and was looking for something new. The HDN cabs would be what I would buy.
Good choice.
Reserve your judgment after you first set it up. Give it time to break in. My HDN410 sounds much more open now that I've been pounding on it for a couple of weeks.
You will be surprised how powerful the B|Amp is, by the way
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Sounds great through the Berg gear, too.
In true excess, and after just obtaining a Berg HDN212, i ran the amp at 2ohm with an HDN212 and HD410 together. Stupiddddlyyyyy loud and good tone!
I use the B/AMP with a pair of CN-210's... It's a great setup, very punchy and quick response...
Loving this set up right now! The headphone amp in the B Amp is stunning and gets more use than the cab... this is a really useful set up, I feel like there are no compromises at all.
Power Section: 350W RMS at 8-Ohms, 700W RMS at 4-Ohms, 800W RMS at 2.67-Ohms and 800W RMS at 2-Ohms
I've been fortunate enough to spend quite a few hours with a fellow bassist A/B'ing the B/Amp with the Magellan. These are by far the best two class D amps I've played and I love them both. The Magellan(set clean) and B/Amp can be dialed in to get in the same ballpark; at least much more closer than with a Mesa D-800 or TH500.
Here's some things I noted;
-Both amps project VERY well and have a crap load of power. You can really feel the notes and they throw into the room.
-The Magellan can be very clean but I'd say the B/Amp is even more so...and it's not like a overly hi-fi thing or unforgiving, just accurate.
-With the 2 contours and the drive channel I would say the Magellan is more versatile if your looking to vary your tone.
-The HPF and cab presets are super awesome for Berg cab owners. Really nice to dial in out problems with the lowend in the room and tighten things up.
-The Magellan is faster to dial in without having to go to sub menus and the single sweep-able mid is fine by me. I've rarely felt the need for two mid controls.
-B/Amp seems to have a bit more more going on down low (depending on the HPF setting).
The first thing we noticed with both amps set flat is that the Magellan seemed more mid aggressive and initially more impressive/exciting. This made sense as we were using the B/Amp preset that flatten things out. We were able to dial in the B/Amp to get the tones pretty darn close. The clarity of the B/Amp is really something in a mix. I was listening my friend play his live and you could hear the character of the LaBella tape wounds he was using and it was very actuate to the sound of the instrument.
Not gonna lie, if money wasn't an issue and I hadn't taken this year off gigging I'd pick up a B/Amp. For clean tones it's just a little better to my ear and there's something in the highend I like a little more. That said I absolutely love my Magellan and for the moment I've have no amp related GAS.
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I did not get the opportunity to try the Magellen but I have been using the B|Amp on an HDN410 Since early March. rMars' description about the Bergantino's accuracy is accurate
Before the B|Amp I knew what my Dingwall sounded like through my recording equipment but just could get that tone onstage. That's the key. In your bedroom or living room is one thing but onstage is much more difficult. You have to start in the right spot before you can correct for the room. I've had a Prodigy, D-800, M9 Carbine, Eden WT800C, Heratige SVT Classic ... the list goes on. All sounded good in some situations but just could not adjust to the room. They all started in a different place because of what they added to the initial tone. I was not only fighting the room, but the amp's influence as well. The Q's never seemed to be in the right spot on the mids. I used a Emperess ParaEQ but that changed my Dingwall before it got amplified. That's kinda bassackwards.
My ABZ3x has three distinctive tones when I choose my pickup combos, a solid P-Bass, a scooped Jazz Bass and an aggressive MusicMan 5H. You can clearly hear each tone onstage because Berg combo faithfully delivers. The Parametric on the B|Amp dials in true room compensation, the HDN-410 produces a balanced, full range, short throw, even when I have to stand off axis, all without out changing what I send FOH.
My amp/cab GAS is completely satisfied. Now if I could just stop buying basses.
Before the B|Amp I knew what my Dingwall sounded like through my recording equipment but just could get that tone onstage. That's the key. In your bedroom or living room is one thing but onstage is much more difficult. You have to start in the right spot before you can correct for the room. I've had a Prodigy, D-800, M9 Carbine, Eden WT800C, Heratige SVT Classic ... the list goes on. All sounded good in some situations but just could not adjust to the room. They all started in a different place because of what they added to the initial tone. I was not only fighting the room, but the amp's influence as well. The Q's never seemed to be in the right spot on the mids. I used a Emperess ParaEQ but that changed my Dingwall before it got amplified. That's kinda bassackwards.
My ABZ3x has three distinctive tones when I choose my pickup combos, a solid P-Bass, a scooped Jazz Bass and an aggressive MusicMan 5H. You can clearly hear each tone onstage because Berg combo faithfully delivers. The Parametric on the B|Amp dials in true room compensation, the HDN-410 produces a balanced, full range, short throw, even when I have to stand off axis, all without out changing what I send FOH.
My amp/cab GAS is completely satisfied. Now if I could just stop buying basses.
Spot on description. I've played both pretty extensively before making a purchase. I did end up buying the B|Amp. As RMars said, the Berg is a really good match if you already have the Berg cabinets. And it's probably a little cleaner. The deciding factor for me was the low end. As stated above. The Berg has more going on down low. And that's what sealed the deal for me.
Super happy w/ my Puma 900, but I keep coming back to this thread. Anyone played both for a comparison? I have Berg cabs so that already makes a good bit of sense..
Similar tonal characteristics. Puma is very clean like the Berg. I think the Berg has a bit more low end clarity and depth. I can't say I would call it better...just slightly different but both are similar. Obviously, with the Berg cabs, you have some more flexibility.
