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Bergantino NV158? ???

#621
SCT1422 said:
Mike, have you tried the MB Fusion 800 with the NV-115 yet ??
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I did I did. (the Munj was in the same room too)
The Fusion has enough muscle to push any cab around by it's nose. If I were to get a NV115 (I got a CN212 instead-*good choice*) I'd hit that pig with some juice.

I thought it sounded really good. I like the NV115 for it's balance and the Fusion 800 has some nice girth to push that sealed 15 around. Don't get ideas of ruling the world with that one cabinet though. There's a limit to hard you can pump it, but even when you do lean on it, (yes ...I did) it held together nicely while it was screaming for it's life.

However, I also hit the NV115 with my ShuttleMax 9.2 and by using all the EQ filters, I was able to boost enough high end to emulate a tweeter and get a very convincing slap tone.

I'm serious, you can get there with that head.

The Fusion, not so much.

In the end I went with the CN212 for a few reasons one of which I couldn't see replacing my AE410 with that one NV 115 cabinet.
 
#624
NV115 x 2 on the way!:hyper: My Blues band has a gig next Saturday and I'm pumped to try them out with my Sadowsky HPJ and TH500:bassist:.

Probably going to have to sell my HD212 and HD112 to pay for them though.:crying:

Lex
 
#626
Anyone using an Aguilar TH500 with the NV115? I just went back and skimmed the whole thread and did not see any mention. A little nervous because the DB751 was mentioned but no real big kudos when paired with the NV115. I thought the TH500 and DB751 were more similar than different in inherent tone. Maybe I just have some nervous anticipation going on. Wednesday FedEx visits!

Lex
 
#629
SCT1422 said:
Mike, have you tried the MB Fusion 800 with the NV-115 yet ??
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Doug Parent said:
I did I did. (the Munj was in the same room too)
The Fusion has enough muscle to push any cab around by it's nose. If I were to get a NV115 (I got a CN212 instead-*good choice*) I'd hit that pig with some juice.

I thought it sounded really good. I like the NV115 for it's balance and the Fusion 800 has some nice girth to push that sealed 15 around. Don't get ideas of ruling the world with that one cabinet though. There's a limit to hard you can pump it, but even when you do lean on it, (yes ...I did) it held together nicely while it was screaming for it's life.

However, I also hit the NV115 with my ShuttleMax 9.2 and by using all the EQ filters, I was able to boost enough high end to emulate a tweeter and get a very convincing slap tone.

I'm serious, you can get there with that head.

The Fusion, not so much.

In the end I went with the CN212 for a few reasons one of which I couldn't see replacing my AE410 with that one NV 115 cabinet.
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What Doug said. And yes, I've tried that combo. Because of my inherent bias on 15s, I would play a clean-sounding amp through it - that means something like a GK MB800 or MBF800, a Shuttle 9.0 or similar, Epifani UL501 - something along those lines. The TH500 isn't clean enough to my ear to avoid some furriness down low with the NV115.

For those of you who like 15s, the NV115 is about as good as it gets. It has the expected low mid richness, but you don't sacrifice high mids and treble. I wouldn't characterize its top end as crystalline. The HT115 could reach a little higher, but it sounded more like 10s to me. As Doug pointed out, the NV115 is definitely not anemic when it comes to volume and punch, but I also think the CN212 has more oomph. I've already stated earlier that, volume-wise, the CN212 compares favorably with most 410s I've played.

Sorry Doug, this post is inconsistent with our earlier plan to post diametrically opposing opinions. But we can still call each other names.
 
#630
My NV115 arrived yesterday. It's going to rehearsal tomorrow night. Looking forward to it, of course.

I'm normally anal about buying smaller cabs in pairs. Matter of fact I keep my pair of HS210 cabs at this rehearsal spot (my loud rock band even rehearses at fairly loud volume). But at some point tomorrow night I'm going to pair my NV115 with an HS210: that should be fun, and if it works then I might not worry about a 2nd NV115.


Again, my NV610 is my go-to cab for loud rock; the NV115 will be for my other bands that play at civilized volume. So I shouldn't need a 2nd NV115, that's just OCD GAS. I'll confirm tomorrow!
 
#631
Cool, looking forward to your review and checking it out in a few weeks! I want to get the second iteration of my 15/8 done so we can compare all three!
 
#633
JGR said:
Cool, looking forward to your review and checking it out in a few weeks! I want to get the second iteration of my 15/8 done so we can compare all three!
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I'm definitely in. I always look forward to visiting your cave of awesome!


Alistair R said:
Seriously want one of these cabs. HT112s might get the flick.
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Not to throw gas on your GAS, but that's what happened with me: my HT112ERs are out, the NV115 is in. The HTs were excellent cabs, but I'm an NV kinda guy.
 
#635
So as promised I used the NV115 at my loud rock band (HighTest) rehearsal tonight. Our regular (loud) drummer is back -- he was out for a month due to knee surgery. It was nice to play with the sub, who didn't hit nearly as hard. But Gregg is a very good rock drummer, and another benefit is that I really got to push the NV115 especially hard (the guitarist is always too loud, but even louder when Gregg's hitting).

In short, the NV115 kept up surprisingly well. I pushed it with one channel of my Stewart World 2.1, ~400w into 8 ohms. My normal rehearsal rig is a pair of HS210 cabs, which get ~650w @ 4 ohms. Tonight the -3dB light was flashing nearly constantly toward the end of rehearsal when we were loudest -- it rarely does that with the HS210 stack. Even though I suspect I was pushing the NV close to its limit, I couldn't detect any breakup from the cab, not even when I ran a fully clean tone. I was getting some compression, but that's a sealed box quality to some extent regardless.

I would never say that one NV115 could match the volume of my 2xHS210 stack, but I was impressed with how well it performed, even down low on the B string. This convinces me that it'll be more than enough for my other bands who don't play as loud. Another nice feature is that I noticed very little change in tone when moving from standing right in front of the cab to about 12 feet away, moving around the garage as much as I could. Sure, the top end faded a bit when standing close, but no big deal.

I alternated between two preamps, my beloved JGR v1 and an SWR Interstellar Overdrive. I tried clean and then kinda-dirty with each one. Results were always as expected, and even though treble response goes higher than the NV610, dirty tones still sounded great. The NV115 is definitely not a typical 15" cab. It seems amazingly flat, with the sealed box qualities of course, and I definitely prefer mid driver to tweeter. On that note, I only brought one bass, my favorite Sadowsky P-bass, and it was strung with Elixirs. The mid driver made it easy (for me) to tell that the strings are coated. I often use Elixirs in summertime because they stand up to my profuse sweat (I hate having to change strings after just one gig), but next rehearsal I'm going to use uncoated SS rounds, which give my favorite tone. I suspect they'll sound wonderful through the mid driver, but it'll be nice to confirm.

I didn't get a chance to try an NV115/HS210 stack, but I'll do that next week. My idea is that for some situations I can use the HS210 as a speaker stand, and plug it in if the gig is louder than expected. :ninja:

I'm tired and rambling, but to sum up I am thrilled with the cab. One NV115 would not be enough for a typical HighTest gig, but the NV610 is my go-to cab for those anyway. The NV will be plenty for my other bands.

P.S. I got the NV115 cover today. All Berg padded covers are the bomb, but the embroidered logo on these put them over the top... too cool!
 
#636
Alistair R said:
I wonder what the 15 would be like with my double bass...Might be a bit too much low end...Hmm :hiding:

Anyone here tried their 15 with an upright?
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The problem I've had with traditional 15" cabs is that there's too much bottom end, and not enough definition. However the beauty of the sealed cab design is that the low end remains pretty tight, rather than loose and woofy and blurry. I would say this is true of the NV115. I don't do upright, but I suspect the NV115 would not have too much low end for you. :)
 
#639
Fuzzbass said:
So as promised I used the NV115 at my loud rock band (HighTest) rehearsal tonight. Our regular (loud) drummer is back -- he was out for a month due to knee surgery. It was nice to play with the sub, who didn't hit nearly as hard. But Gregg is a very good rock drummer, and another benefit is that I really got to push the NV115 especially hard (the guitarist is always too loud, but even louder when Gregg's hitting).

In short, the NV115 kept up surprisingly well. I pushed it with one channel of my Stewart World 2.1, ~400w into 8 ohms. My normal rehearsal rig is a pair of HS210 cabs, which get ~650w @ 4 ohms. Tonight the -3dB light was flashing nearly constantly toward the end of rehearsal when we were loudest -- it rarely does that with the HS210 stack. Even though I suspect I was pushing the NV close to its limit, I couldn't detect any breakup from the cab, not even when I ran a fully clean tone. I was getting some compression, but that's a sealed box quality to some extent regardless.

I would never say that one NV115 could match the volume of my 2xHS210 stack, but I was impressed with how well it performed, even down low on the B string. This convinces me that it'll be more than enough for my other bands who don't play as loud. Another nice feature is that I noticed very little change in tone when moving from standing right in front of the cab to about 12 feet away, moving around the garage as much as I could. Sure, the top end faded a bit when standing close, but no big deal.

I alternated between two preamps, my beloved JGR v1 and an SWR Interstellar Overdrive. I tried clean and then kinda-dirty with each one. Results were always as expected, and even though treble response goes higher than the NV610, dirty tones still sounded great. The NV115 is definitely not a typical 15" cab. It seems amazingly flat, with the sealed box qualities of course, and I definitely prefer mid driver to tweeter. On that note, I only brought one bass, my favorite Sadowsky P-bass, and it was strung with Elixirs. The mid driver made it easy (for me) to tell that the strings are coated. I often use Elixirs in summertime because they stand up to my profuse sweat (I hate having to change strings after just one gig), but next rehearsal I'm going to use uncoated SS rounds, which give my favorite tone. I suspect they'll sound wonderful through the mid driver, but it'll be nice to confirm.

I didn't get a chance to try an NV115/HS210 stack, but I'll do that next week. My idea is that for some situations I can use the HS210 as a speaker stand, and plug it in if the gig is louder than expected. :ninja:

I'm tired and rambling, but to sum up I am thrilled with the cab. One NV115 would not be enough for a typical HighTest gig, but the NV610 is my go-to cab for those anyway. The NV will be plenty for my other bands.

P.S. I got the NV115 cover today. All Berg padded covers are the bomb, but the embroidered logo on these put them over the top... too cool!
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Great to hear Ken! It's cool you now have a smaller NV option that works. Really looking forward to giving it a whirl. You might want to try the Stewart bridged and just watch the master - based on my experiences with the bigger NV's, you should be fine.
 
#640
Alistair R said:
I wonder what the 15 would be like with my double bass...Might be a bit too much low end...Hmm :hiding:

Anyone here tried their 15 with an upright?
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Yes, it sounded full, warm and woody, but it was a pretty "big" tone, which might be a problem on some stages, but would likely sound great in many gigging environments.
 

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